sr1329 thanks for your honest answer and i read thru the post because i do like to hear what you say, i dont always agree but who ever does all the time.
I see what your needs are and i will say this isnt the needs of the majority maybe the business world but the the typical cell phone user.
The typical cellphone user is wowed not by email or by how many apps open and how quickly but by youtube, facebook, music videos ect.... oh yes text messaging and camera.
whenever im with a bunch a friends the nseries stands out the most even against the iphone because in everyday situations it just performs might not be as smooth but it performs.
When i fire up garmin and navigate where ever they want, when i take some pics and post it on a web they are amazed by the quality(they arent professional photographers) so yes it wows them, when i play movies and its loud enough from my phone that they can hear, when i record a video of them in action or there child and then edit it and merge them and then add music before i even leave there house or a party were at they are amazed.
When i can just connect my phone to there comp and transfer movies and songs right from my device so they can load it on theres, they are amazed.
So thats why i say all this bashing and outdated stuff is true to a certain extent, but then give me a device that can do what i just said i do and i will gladly leave, i can care less about sms im not a texter but after using free isms i can see how valuable it is, i can care less about facebook, or youtube ima mailman and dont even care about the way nokia email is i never had an issue reading , forwarding and responding to emails.
You might not care for the camera but plenty do, as well as music more people bought the iphone because of the ipod part then the actual phone part IMHO, the needs people in the iphone forum cry for is exactly what we have now, better camera, video recording, mms, full gps, multi tasking , copy and paste and flash in browser, very few ask for a bigger processor because majority have no clue. I know these issues will be addressed as well as when jailbroken they are all i am doing is making a point of what people actually want on the overall. :buddies: