What do you think about Eureka 7?

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v1cious said:
yea the Sages pretty much run everything from behind the scenes. that's all i wil say at this point.
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Yeah that's what I thought from what I've seen. I mean
from what I could tell, they let the dude with the long white hair out of prison.
 
I'm enjoying it, I like the balance of the light hearted story and the fact there is still a decent story with enough depth to balance with it.
 
I've been trying to get into the show but I'm having a hard time doing so. We're 7 episodes in (haven't watched ep. 7 yet), and so far I have no idea where it's going. Save for maybe episode one each episode has virtually been the same and follows a basic formula. By this point I would think I would like to know where everyone is going. Usually characters have some sort of destination or overall goal. The Gekkostate crew, well, they just sort of cruise around until they get a chance to ride the waves. Also, given the fact that this is supposed to be a mecha show there's very little mecha involved (maybe that's why it's popular). Anyway I know the military has something up their sleeves to obtain the Nirvash, but the moments that appear to be what move the overall story along seem so separated from everything else that it's difficult for me to get an idea of what will happen. Then again, maybe there's something I completely missed.
 
I think it is awesome as well.
The more recent episodes that are on now are pretty amazing.I wonder what connection Eureka has to Anemone.
Because when Anemone ran into them in the Nirvash she said that Eureka was her look-alike. So maybe there is more to them than just that maybe?
And inside Anemone's LFO "the End" is very interesting. It has no seats but some kind of....thing...
 
penguintruth said:
cheezisgoooood said:
penguintruth said:
So far it seems pretty overrated. I've been watching it on CN and nine episodes in, they've barely revealed any plot.
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"So far it seems pretty overrated"

That was a dumb statement >_>.
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How so? I supported my statement. There's little if any plot. They drop references to things that they never gave any background for, as if you're supposed to already know. It's becoming jargon-heavy, which is what prevented GitS: SAC from being as good as Fullmetal Alchemist. It's cast of characters is too large for a show that only really has three or four active characters, and they're all pretty dull (besides Holland).

Many people have puffed this show up as being a great series. I wouldn't disagree that it's decent, but it's certainly not standout.
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Since when has anime ever been a medium where the plot is thrown in your face right form the start?
 
Conundrum said:
PantsGoblin said:
frentymon said:
-gecko said:
(what's with the pronunciation of Eureka, anyway?)
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Guess they either goofed up while trying to pronouce "Eureka" or decided it would be cooler to pronounce it by the exact romanization to Japanese. To really sound like the 'real' way to pronouce "Eureka," it would have to be romanized as "Yuurika." Which doesn't seem like it would be "Eureka" at first glance.
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Guess you guys are finished talking about it but... I went to Tomoki Kyoda's (director of Eureka 7) panel at AX and he said it was pronounced "You-wreck-a" not "You-reek-a". It was because some magazine in Japan already had "eureka" pronounced the other way and he didn't want them to get confused. I don't know if that's what they did in the show since I haven't seen it.

I'm actually kind of wanting to see this show now. I'm not really a big mecha fan though, do you think I would like it? I did like Full Metal Panic! though.
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I think you'll probably like it, I've talked to quite a few people who aren't big fans of the mecha genre that have come to love this series. The music is great, the characters are quirky & unique, the animation is beautiful and it has a very interesting story, definitely worth checking out.
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Yeah I have to say that one of the things I love about this show is the music.
 
Thus far although the plot"gaint robots piloted by kids" isn't new i have enjoyed the series.
 
I'm enjoying it as well, though I do agree to an extent that is moving kind of slow so far. After the 3rd episode it took on a very different feel. However, what appears to be the main story is already being shown in the background:
That guy, Dewey (well, that's his name in the manga), was released from prison and definitely has some type of connection with Holland and the Gekkostate. Then there are also the Coralians who have appeared and are now becoming a focus for the characters. However, what the Coralians really are and what their objective is remains a mystery.
So things are beginning to pop up here and there. I'm glad that they didn't explain things as they appeared, the mystery will keep me interested.

As for the characters, I like most of them, and the rest of them I have not seen enough of to decide whether or not I like them. At first I started to dislike Talho, but episode 5 showed a different side to her that changed my mind. And Renton makes for a pretty humorous central character; he pretty much clashes with Eureka's personality (or lack there of), which makes the whole romance thing between them (though I still feel that Eureka is completely oblivious to this) fun to watch. I for one am going to stick around for the rest of this series.
 
PantsGoblin said:
MSRB is $60 so 40 isn't that bad. For all of the extra stuff that came with it, I thought it was a pretty good deal.
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Yeah, but I was just talking about how that price compared to the amount of money I had on me at the time. Sorry for not making it clear.
 
does the story skip a year or something i was watching an amv for eureka 7 and it had a kid that looked like renton in a white mecha and had new cloths and looked older is that renton or a new person?
 
I was going to watch tonight's epsidoe but fell asleep. Amazingly, I woke up at 3AM by complete chance and was able to watch the one I missed. Good thing to.

It's definately getting more interesting, I've only caught about two-three episodes right now but the episodes i've seen do have plot.

It's almost exactly like Evangelion, except instead of Religious references, it has pop culture references.
 
the show is doing horrible on Adult swim... and i mean REALLY horrible.

i honestly think it's one of the best mecha series i've seen, and i hate this genre. sure it starts off kinda slow at the beginning, but once it gets to the first Acperience, the show nothing but great beyond that point. the only thing i didn't like is
i felt that it wrapped up too nicely. you never felt like Gekko State ever made any real sacrifice in the end, it just seemed like another mission. i also HATED the direction they took Anemone's character.

TranceLimit174 said:
I've been trying to get into the show but I'm having a hard time doing so. We're 7 episodes in (haven't watched ep. 7 yet), and so far I have no idea where it's going. Save for maybe episode one each episode has virtually been the same and follows a basic formula. By this point I would think I would like to know where everyone is going. Usually characters have some sort of destination or overall goal. The Gekkostate crew, well, they just sort of cruise around until they get a chance to ride the waves. Also, given the fact that this is supposed to be a mecha show there's very little mecha involved (maybe that's why it's popular). Anyway I know the military has something up their sleeves to obtain the Nirvash, but the moments that appear to be what move the overall story along seem so separated from everything else that it's difficult for me to get an idea of what will happen. Then again, maybe there's something I completely missed.
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LOL Gaogaigar has like 20 fillers in a row... and you have trouble getting into this?
 
TranceLimit174 said:
Do TiVo, VCR, and DVR recordings get factored into the ratings at all? If not then it may be possible that there more people watching than the ratings indicate. But yeah, I always thought Saturday was a bad day to premire new episodes of anything. As people of said a lot of people are out doing other things. Also a lot of fans who would be watching are probably working as well. Saturday is basically the social day of the week, not chill out in front of the tube day. Also cons occur rather frequently, so I'm sure many potential viewers are enjoying the con scene rather than sitting in their hotel rooms and watching. Then again maybe AS assumes anime fans don't have a life. Honestly though I don't think AS really has something against anime fans. I think it was on this forum but I believe it was stated that one of the people in charge of programming (probably just the anime programming) is a fan. Shows like Family Guy and their other comedy staples are going to get more ratings than anime period simply because they have a much broader appeal. So naturally they get the more ideal timeslots. I think what it is is that AS knows that anime fans tend to be pretty dedicated, so if a show comes on that they enjoy then they will find some way to watch whereas people won't go out of their way to catch that Family Guy rerun. Also, I think another reason may be that a lot of fans probably buy the DVDs before the show starts to air on AS. These fans already have the DVD, and have probably watched it already (probably more than once) so why would they watch the same episode with commercials once a week (unless it's one of those Saturdays when nothing's going on and they just decide to turn on AS and the show happens to be on)? I don't think many people think "I need to tune in regardless of whether or not I've seen the show to help the ratings." It's both the whole "my vote doesn't count" mentality and I believe I read that only a certain number of homes are outfitted with cable boxes that actually report on what's being watched. Either way, anime would probably fair better if it was on during the week (an extra half hour wouldn't kill the network, just one premire an evening) but I don't think anime airs on Saturdays simply because AS wants to secretly oust it out of their programming.
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I'm not sure, I know that every time you update your TIVO it's supposed to send back a little piece of info on what you've been watching and all that. Some studios take that into consideration, some don't. This was a hot topic back when the last Star Trek series was on, because with the TIVO numbers thrown in the show wasn't doing that bad in the ratings. However I think VCR's and stuff are just counted like someone watching it normally. The Nelson box just records what station it's on. I don't know if they've found a way to hook them into vcr's and all that, i know the old boxes were only on when the TV's were turned on.
 
cheezisgoooood said:
penguintruth said:
cheezisgoooood said:
penguintruth said:
So far it seems pretty overrated. I've been watching it on CN and nine episodes in, they've barely revealed any plot.
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"So far it seems pretty overrated"

That was a dumb statement >_>.
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How so? I supported my statement. There's little if any plot. They drop references to things that they never gave any background for, as if you're supposed to already know. It's becoming jargon-heavy, which is what prevented GitS: SAC from being as good as Fullmetal Alchemist. It's cast of characters is too large for a show that only really has three or four active characters, and they're all pretty dull (besides Holland).

Many people have puffed this show up as being a great series. I wouldn't disagree that it's decent, but it's certainly not standout.
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Hey you don't have to like GIS:SAC, but just because it was over your head doesn't mean that the rest of us (and the majority) didn't get it, and put it up with the other classics.

Stop jumping the gun. Like the other person said, no anime I can think of told you all the details of the plot right from the get go. What fun would that be if they did? No twists, no turns, no suprise discoveries that makes our hero(s) question what their doing?
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I'm enjoying it, I like the balance of the light hearted story and the fact there is still a decent story with enough depth to balance with it.
 
From what I've seen so far it got me hooked pretty well. Sad to see the stoned Adult Swim crowd does not find it appealing. Then again, trusting such a source as the Nielsen box (spelling?) is quite very much unreliable, even when we have to admit there really aren't any alternatives. I mean, come on, only the houses with the boxes got represented--which means it will undeniably have some sort of a "mainstream-only" bias with niche audiences having a disproportionately underrepresented percentage.

Aaaanyway...
penguintruth said:
How so? I supported my statement. There's little if any plot. They drop references to things that they never gave any background for, as if you're supposed to already know. It's becoming jargon-heavy, which is what prevented GitS: SAC from being as good as Fullmetal Alchemist. It's cast of characters is too large for a show that only really has three or four active characters, and they're all pretty dull (besides Holland).

Many people have puffed this show up as being a great series. I wouldn't disagree that it's decent, but it's certainly not standout.
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First of all, you should not present your opinion: "GitS: SAC is not as good as FA" as fact. I respect your opinion, but your wording indicate you claiming it is a fact, which I must disagree. Also, I don't find Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex to have too much jargon at all. The hard part is the philosophical ramblings, which really don't use much series-specific jargon; unless, of course, you find all the philosophical references jargon. And Eureka, as of episode 7, really doesn't have that much jargon now, does it?

Secondly, your judgement is made upon a two-seasons (four seasons, if we go by the 13-episodes rule) show from its first 7 episodes. To use a general example: Naruto fails to establish any serious plots whatsoever within its first ten episodes; though of course I'm aware these are very different examples. The references I don't see as the producers assuming we understand everything--quite the opposite, I see it as the producers presenting mostly what's only seen through the lead character's point-of-view, and builds up that way. The action is slow, perhaps, but I don't find any of it boring.

It seems people get all angry and disappointed over Eureka 7 just because they expect it to be something it is not. From the posts here I get the impression that people are looking for "mecha-action-blood-shiny battles-now!" and "plots, enemies, intrigues, now!" kind of show. :-/
 
I saw Episode 14 last night. It was mostly a rehash of the prior episodes. Since it was the start of a second season, though, I discounted that.

Renton's voice sounded different in Episode 14 as he was narrating. I found that distracting since I was used to the voice Jonny Yong Bosch had been using most of the time. Then again, maybe that different voice is used only during narration. I won't know that until I see more episodes.

On a positive note, the themes for the opening and closing sounded (to me) richer, more full-bodied, more textured, and more muscular. I just could not enojoy the themes used during the first thirteen episodes. I'm glad for the change.
 
Tetsujin said:
Last night's episode of E7 was the first one which reminded me of NGE. Renton was
tripping out
and each scene kept screaming WTF in my mind. Even though Renton tends to whine, it's nowhere near the whining done by Shinji Ikari.

E7 stands on its own, but to me last night's episode just felt like something from the later episodes of NGE.
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Good call. E7 is definitely shaping to something I did not expect. I felt the same very reminecent of Neon Genesis. It seems the slow build up was for a reason, can't wait to see where the series goes next. :)
 
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