Underage Nudity Being Shared On The Gnutella Network - Porn and Laws

Eggzactly. Most of those scumbags have been caught and it's only a matter of time for the rest.

Recently one of those guys has been caught and put in the jug because he
'adopted' a russian girl and exploited her for years, putting videos out on the
internet. She's OK now, but he'll be wondering for the rest of his short and
miserable life in solitary when the shank or the poison will finally claim him.

His case alone has hopefully added real security to the rest of the russian
orphans hoping to get a real life lately.

As for the ******* who finally terminates that monster: Thanks, but I would
still shoot you on sight. Do it for your own pleasure but you can be sure I
would not celebrate with you. You are still a lifer and you do it for your own
personal pleasure and status in Max, nothing more. Do us a favour and off
yourself too.

(The foregoing text is purely a personal perspective for which I will never
apologize or repent. Deal with it on your own, because anybody who
challenges it will surely suffer consequences no matter which country in which
they currently live. Take it from a former recce trooper who can hop any 'western'
or russian military transport jet at will with a wink and a nod from the pilot. )
 
Just having them is not illegal anyway, no matter how you got them.

Downloading is not going to get you in trouble anyway.
What you have to control or prevent is the uploading of files
from you. If you're not doing that, you have nothing to
worry about because not even the record companies would
sue you if you're not uploading a lot of music.



Most backup software doesn't bother to save the contents of
empty sectors or even the slack space in clusters at the end
of each file so yes, that would be safe. Still, it would be far
faster to use a secure wipe program to just clean up all the
empty and slack space without the long backup and restore.

Some backup software can be made to save a complete
image of a disk, empty sectors and all, so you wouldn't
want to use that feature if you wanted to be rid of old
deleted data.
 
i had 2 friends that had kp on their machines but they did not put it their. one had files in the p2p shared dir and the other had files all over the place. their machines were running redhat like mine and redhat linux has a lot of holes if its not setup. if someone gets a hi user id by hacking a service like sendmail tftp telnet login or anoter service even apache they can pretty much do what they want on that machine. if files are put in a high trafc spot like a p2p shared dir, then the p2p app will begin sharing those files so it like a backdoor to a fileserver. our cUsers group has seen this a few. the other prob is with java on some p2p apps the java jvm that runs on the machine with the app can be vuln if its an older or oem vers. my shop machine was hacked thru telnet and java not the p2p. the p2p's are prety good overall.

JM2C
 
It's very good that you are scared. Hopefully it will keep you away from this dangerous precipace forever. Please let it. By opening that door, you would not only harm your soul by opening yourself up to harmful behavior, you would ruin your life. You would be given a label you could never escape from that would cause your neighbors to hate and fear you. Thank you for seeing the danger for what it is, very real and please go and stay free of these things.
 
unfortunately holding shift while hitting the delete key did nothing but make the icon blink. And it won't even give me the option to rename it.
 
In the UK is possession and arrest only proved by actually finding the material on the persons computer, or can records/logs from things like the gnutella network be used to convict entirely by themselves?
 
IC Orange is whining yet again...and he/she/it is exaggerating/falsifying the facts..

this 'conversation' he/she/it refers to dates to ca. July, 2008...

OC was warned about his/her/its ranting and such during that period of time (yep, I've got all the PMs to prove it)...

I'll stand by my thoughts that a little dose of fear is not a bad thing....let's face it, its illegal and even if gotten by mistake it needs to be burned off of a HDD and the lesson learned...even knowing the lesson one might still mistakenly acquire illegal files, but a lesson learned is a lesson learned...there's an old saying....'curiosity killed the cat'...file names that indicate illegal pron should not incite a state of 'curiosity', neh?

you keep up your krap OC and we will ban you this time as opposed to warning you like in the past....
 
@AW: Please forget about defragging. Now.

Ever heard about disk forensics? They cut open your disk in a clean room and check the bits one at a time, and they can recover drives run over by cars for anything between 400€ and a few thousand Euro.

The only way to be halfway sure that unencrypted data can't be recovered is to use some data burning tools (they overwrite the data with random bits _multiple times_), and even that isn't safe, because harddisks optimize a bit too eagerly these times and might just point the data burn tools to different bits even though they say that they write to the same ones.

The way to be mostly safe is to create an encrypted partition/section on your drive and save the data into it.

If you then want to delete it, you just have to delete and overwrite the encrypted partition, because encrypted files can't be recovered from remaining shreds, while for unencrypted files small shreds suffice to show which fiels where there.

Be vary of incomplete files, though. They must go into the encrypted partition, too.

And make sure you read up on the encryption algorythm you use. If it encrypts in smaller parts, then you must make sure that every part is getting shredded.

And while I'm at it: You shouldn't download copyright infringing files in the first place. And even less in unencrypted networks. They just need to bust the one you downloaded _from_ to get enough evidence against you.
 
That's pretty much it. You'd have to sit there and share it for a while, and they
probably want to have suspects online and uploading when they break down the
door and start threatening to shoot up the place.
 
Thanks for the advice but my question was about the legality of it. Is it possible for someone to get punished for having KP on their computer?

As you mentioned in your post it's possible to accidentally download such material. So I think it'd be dumb to punish someone just for HAVING it. I'm all for the FBI cracking down on the people who MADE it, but I think it'd be a waste of money to lock someone up just for watching a movie or looking at some pics...
 
alright im 17 and i came across this stuff
after seeing people of your own age having sex its kind of hard to get off of it
so anyhows i scared myself to stop reading how ppl got caught and stuff
i always deleted what i watched but idk if it permentaly deleted it
so anyone know how to like permentaly delete junk


btw im righting a paper for more class in school on this topic
 
I have recovered deleted files myself, not cp but that's beside the point. E.g a whole movie - 27-29 minutes into it. This was not deleted through the recycle bin. Probably the main reason that I was unable to recover the last two minutes, was that I didn't have a lot of free space left and Limewire was downloading for several hours before noticing the the file was gone.
 
its according to who you downed said file from....if you are a truly 'innocent' person then even if you downed it from the 'law' they will be able to tell after they observe what you are doing (packet sniffing, etc) after the 'incident'...
 
As I understand it Gnutella acts only as a mechanism to bring two users together. Then one user can down/up load files from their PC to the other. No note of IP addresses is made by either PC or the P2P such as Limewire.

I've read about efforts to make the P2P facilitator such as Limewire record the IP addresses but I understand they have failed so far. Once the transfer is complete no record exists that it even took place.

Am I incorrect?
 
thanks for that Peer. I'd like to believe that but this site, for a few dollars, claims they can identify your very house with a IP number:

People-Search.com

Or, I think, give me my IP address by entering my home street address.

My point is that if the cops collect my IP address via my downloading or uploading something to/from my PC they can pinpoint the street address.

If I'm allowing someone to collect my IP address and I don't know how to disguise or hide it its effectively public information.

I assume my only option, assuming I'm one of the bad guys here is to dump my computer, get a new one for cash and never register the warranty or anything else for that matter.

And if I want my enemy to get arrested all I have to do is buy his old but registered computer, not change the address, download and share CP then watch the cops fruitlessly raid his home.

I actually hope I'm wrong on all this, that my privacy can't be invaded that easily but with the web site I referred to the scenario is realistic. Show me how I'm wrong. Please
 
Thats why you see check your video files with Bitzi before you download them. It is recommened on these forums countless times EVERYDAY OVER AND OVER and some people just don't pay attention, like RBIN.

Links below explain how to use Bitzi

Fake files showing up in search results

How to find music (tips for video also)
 
So what you are saying is that your brother had 14 files on his computer that where in relation to KP....He accidentally downloaded 14 files is that correct ??

All sounds a little suss to me...The authorities where obviously watching him for a reason...
 
Hi BCI & Blackhorse 70V

I would've thought that the FBI should be out catching terrorist and organised criminals rather than busting a kid, barely out of his teenage years, for downloading porn.

You know, this seems to be about catching people out rather than justice or catching real criminals, i.e. the producers and distributors of CP.

All I can say is that it seems that the US is becoming more like China or Russia everyday where the law is used to keep ordinary citizens in their place, rather than protect, and justice is a joke.


UK Bob
 
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