Underage Nudity Being Shared On The Gnutella Network - Porn and Laws

As everyone knows, sometimes half the files on p2p Networks have incorrect or misleading names - and that works both ways : -

Often you can be looking for particular file and it will turn up in Searches with inappropriate words tacked on/into the filename
OR vice-versa... you DL the correctly-named file and it's actually something else ... - like illegal pron, a DRM or other Scam or similar ...

Either way you can have trouble if you don't check the files immediately, rename any that're OK, Completely delete anything inappropriate/illegal AND any record or cache of either.

This can sometimes be tough when you're scheduling things to run overnight/unattended or that're 'queued/waiting for sources/position in line etc... - more so if you're sharing partials (as pointed out by an earlier poster.].. In the worst case you can end up both with illegal stuff on your HD *and* having redistributed it ....

The Police & Courts are *not* the brightest or best-informed. All you can do is be vigilant - and careful ..

BTW, in response to Forum_Monkey's earlier :


Actually, most of the stuff about that's labelled as CP *isn't* - there isn't that much around (there isn't actually much demand for it, happily) , or to paraphrase your comment: your average 'CP' movie will in fact be either legal 18+ clips mislabelled or, as you said, some 50 y/o mother with tatoos and those '200+ cp files' there were probably legal. [To put my comments in perspective, I've been actively working with Computers & Comms - all kinds of different environments & protocols - for a very long time (300bps modems ... I've run & used a lot of differnt types of sites - from dial-up BBS's, FTP servers, exchanges, web sites and 'hosted' & watched on Server-Client & p2p 'Nets'.

Like most similar things, this "CP epidemic" has always been a media creation. Most Producers, Providers, sites, Servers & Admins - and people generally - just aren't interested. Demand is small, potential for trouble is huge, there's no money in it (and, unsurprisingly, most people strongly disagree with it).

And the very few who *are* interested are hardly likely to advertise the fact by splattering their IPs, email addresses or website details all over the place - they tend instead to be secret little 'closed' Networks of CP fanciers.

Unfortunately there is fallout: A lot of Video & photographers who used to wander about in public places seekings original shots or 'B-Roll' (background) footage won't shoot children or the places they play, swim, hang around etc. - it's too much trouble with all the silly paranoia about. As an example, I've shot video records & stills for a very prominent "Babies to 16' group of swim schools because their usual US-based Videographer quit doing it after being repeatedly challenged by parents or Busybody types and the courteous but genuinely-concerned...

And the 'western world' is now also full of Grandpas who won't hug their Grandkids or let them sit on Grandpa's lap ...

It's pretty sad, really.
 
... with a lawyer message containing a screenshot and an eye-wittness.

Using only a screenshot just got rejected by a court in germany, because the eye-wittness had disappeared. Before that, using just screenshots was common practice.
 
Update for anyone interested in that Matthew White case. Apparently, according to his plea agreement on PACER, he's pleading guilty to 150 images of S&M (the really bad stuff) CP.

Assuming this is true, it seems as though the storys of people getting busted in by police/FBI/any authorites for accidentaly downloading CP, and deleting it right away, still remains to be a myth.
 
Highlight them and hold the shift key down while pressing the delete key.
If it fails, Unlocker will pop up and give you the opportunity to unlock and delete them.
If even that fails, Unlocker will give you the option to have Windows automatically delete
it on the next bootup, and that never fails. ;]
 
This quote is what I am replying to, not the rest of his post.ISP's do work with MAC addresses and assign IP addresses to MAC
addresses as they are found on the network. Telus, for example, allows advanced
users to manually register two MAC addresses for each DSL account.

So, in order to impersonate another user on a typical broadband connection you
need three things, the right MAC address, physical access to the same line and
the opportunity to use both of those quickly enough to fool the ISP and any
potential investigators. The odds are strongly against it and the risk of being
caught in the attempt is high. It could also be done if the victim has an unsecured
wireless router but that circumstance also gives said victim a plausible defence.
 
Hi, i've only registered here today so hello all.

just got a big problem I want to get off my chest, been looking for limewire forums for a while now to say about this so here goes..also its reassuring to know that other users have come across this problem before and other users have helped out...I do apolgise if maybe I posted this in the wrong thread but I did read the Forum rules and regs, and this thread "underage nudity" seemed right for it.
ok so here goes..........

was recently looking for photos and short clips of the "harry poter-goblet of fire" film, I managed to download few files of pics and videos, majority of them where proper but 3 of them featured the young girl in the film, who was nude and where very unpleasant scenes, dont want to go into any more detail about it...

now this is where my problem is, i've only recently got limewire programme so im not so sure about how all the file sharing works etc and i didnt take caution...i found out that i was sharing two folders on my pc "My Music" and "my pictures",unfortuenly I downloaded the harry potter pics and video clips to "my music"
So what im saying is, these files where idle for about 5 mins in that folder, and during that time loads of limewire users cud of downloaded it! AND NO THEY WHERE NOT IDLE BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THEM, THEY WHERE IDLE BECAUSE I WAS DOWNLOADING MORE STUFF, AND I LOOK AND LISTEN TO EVERYTHING AFTER I'VE FINISHED ON LIMEWIRE......IM NOT SICK AND NEVER MAKE MYSELF LOOK AT THESE SORT OF THINGS.

I OBVIOSLY deleted all the disgusting pictures, cleared temp internet files, cache the lot!!

So guys, ashamed to say this but i really am SCARED on wots going to happen to me next...am i gonna get a visit from the law,get taken to court??

Sorry if this seems like an inrelevant post, but I didnt get a good night sleep last night, been searching the internet for advice all today, and worried sick...as a result I have uninstalled limewire permantley.

im hoping someone can help me, if not just send me somewere else where i could get help....THANKS ALOT GUYS
 
nope...AFAIK dban is for totally wiping a drive, not individual partitions...

your course of action is up to you...at this moment in time the powers of the RIAA/MPAA are waning and the forced forensic analysis of your drive might not happen (it HAS happened to others)...free space wipers and such might do the trick for you....of course the ultimate 'trick' is to throw away the HDD and replace it...

AW's comments in this thread indicate he has never heard the the Candyman Project which was conducted a few years back....the Law was supplying illegal images to ensnare people...apparently totally legal as plenty of people are paying the price for accepting those emails and such (including some law officers...big surprise eh?)....just remember, AW is from Canada and they have different laws than the rest of the planet....

and think of this: if you had spent the time to start a case against an individual, wouldn't you go 'all the way' once you had done a fair amount of work????? admit it, sure you would!
 
It's probably every six months actually. Polk County, FL. This story is only a few months old but the local links are dead.

ABC News: The Many Faces of Child Porn Suspects
 
Sykes85

Let me tell you what I know (and suspect) based on my own knowledge and experience.

You asked:Well, all web servers that you surf log your IP address, eg. When you first log onto this forum you have to enter your username and password. The next time you enter the forum the server knows who you are and lets you in without asking for your username and password.

That is done by the server putting a cookie on your computer when you first visit and on the second visit comparing the info in the cookie against what it has stored about you in its log.

And that is the normal state of affairs when surfing the web.

You also asked:As far as I understand it, under British law you have done nothing wrong because, as far as you were concerned, this was a legitimate web site and as soon as you suspected it wasn't you deleted everything you downloaded. Providing that you do not go back to this site, or any similar sites, you should be OK.

As for the deleted images on your HD, first you should defrag your HD on a weekly basis. This will not delete everything in one go but as long as you continue to used your HD normally and do regular defrags the deleted images will eventually be completely overwritten.

There are file deletion utilities that can completely wipe the images off your HD but to use such a utility you would first have to restore the image files you deleted, which is not a good idea.

Hope this helps.


UK Bob
 
Mate no offence as your just a kid, but you really need to do some research on p2p, it doesn't work like you think it does...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer

Also a little insight as to why decent human beings think child porn is evil...
Half of those young girls and boys you see having s*x are shot in the arm with some sort of dr*g and filmed maybe by their father or their uncle or maybe even the neighbour, or even still some low life sleeze bag that makes money off of them...they could be raped, held hostage and so and so on.....

Still think it's ok stuff do you....
 
A guy who accidentally halfway downloads something dodgy and then deletes the scraps is
certainly not guilty of anything. Since your disk is already active and full of data a defrag will be
enough to finish off the last bits of it.
 
I don't think that they would mislabel them to intentionally catch people for downloading LEGAL adult content, but they might name it something giving it away as being child pornography like the age, GIRL or BOY or anything else....What I am really concerned about is that I have accidentally downloaded some of these files that I would not have downloaded if I would have known that LimeWire was full of child porn, but I just went wild and I got pics that were really trash bin material to me, I am just interested in legal adult photos. And after I have just tried to do a search, most everytime I do search for adult content like 18 yo for example, I get about 10 results that are underage porn at least....and the intentional misnaming thing is pretty bad, I don't know whether that is the FBI doing that or not but mann......I wish there was something to do to stop the child porn. I wouldn't be so nervous right now if there wasn't such a thing. I have accidentally downloaded some of it, I don't know whether the feds have my IP or not.......I just hope to god that nothing legal happens because I had no intention to download those files, and as far as limewire being porn-central, nada. I'm done using it for that after finding out it was plastered with CP and that you can actually be arrested and into some deep stuff with the FBI even if you had no intention of having it in your posession for a few seconds.....

If you just start downloading something immediately the sharer can get your IP I am pretty sure. Just typing the simple netstat command will give you the IP if you know anything basic about your computer and what IP is what....you can get people's IP's and I am just concerned that the feds have gotten my IP from downloading some of this stuff accidentally, because I thought my search just included what I searched for, you type in 18 yo and you get sources that are only 18 yo.....but nope. I just highlight and download them all and then come back to the computer and find that most of the files were CP I was like oh no...and I deleted them and now my whole life is affected because after reading the dummy file thing and then knowing that some people around where I live got caught, it is quite life-disturbing......I can't enjoy it anymore because of the terrible thoughts of being in prison for 5 years I mean I haven't gotten any verification that I was caught with it but I just think that I was because of the FBI being involved with the dummy file distribution, and I probably downloaded one or two at least of their fake files that catches people who download CP....

Depressed-
 
:mad: On Monday August 4, my brother was given a prison sentence for having deleted file names that insinuated kp, theses files could not be verified, but just the fact of having words is enough to send you to the cooler. He had got these files of limewire, which looked as innocent as any music file you choose to download, during the download the file name changed which he only realised when he went back to his pc, he deleted them off immediatley. There was also an uploader on his pc which the prosecution failed to mention to the judge. When my brother went to give his plea, he was only shown the case file 1 hour before, his barrister advised him to enter a guilty plea otherwise he would get 18yrs, so this is what he did. The prosecution then announced that they had made an exaggeration, which the judge did not seem to impressed with & ordered a pre trial revue, his barrister announced that he had not been advised about this or he would of advised a not guily plea. My brother had his revue & on Monday we went back to court for sentence, we were advised he was a low risk & unlikely to be a risk, but he is in denial, all because he maintains he is not into this type of sick **** & if anyone ever touched his siblings kids he would be in court on a different matter. We went ino the court room to a different judge,the prosecution went over the old stuff that he had already said they exaggerated (possibly due to being a different judge & the local press being there) but also admitted these files could not be verified, he also said there was a vid of a girl tied to a bed performing oral sex, a play on word i guess, as i use the word 'girls' if im going for a night out with my mates & some of them are in there 40's. I got the impression this judge had made his mind up the minute he walked in the court room, he passed sentence of 6 months for each offence (which had already been previously advised of an exaggeration & not being able to verify theses files) the sentence totals 7yrs. Unfortunatley barristers, judges & solicitors are not computer savvy, they are dinosaurs in this area & the police know this & use it to there advantage. The police & courts are not interested in the why's & wherefore's just the fact they can recover words of your computers memory is enough to convict you. I know dozens of people this has happened too even my own kids tell me it has happened to them on an old computer we had, thank god we don't have it anymore. I have been on my brothers computer many times & never seen anything underhand, he would never let me on it if he did as he knows what a nosey cow i am. Yes, i have noticed a few adult porn sites he has viewed but what young or old lad dosn't look at adult porn even girls for that matter.
What i am saying is, in the eyes of the law it does not matter how kp got onto your computer, the fact that it is there is enough to put you in prison & the sex offenders register. It is scary **** & those that download it to keep & distribute are the one's that need seeing to. My brother refuses to lie & say that is what he is into to satisfy the legal system, if he had said what they want to hear, he would be free.
 
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