Pirate/Downloaded Films...

I do download torrents of films and telvision programmes.

My reasons are, that for me it's difficult to get to the cinema. I would have to spend about
 
You're choosing your analogy to fit your perception of the activity. Borrowing a CD sounRAB like a very trivial act, like borrowing a book or even a lawnmower: it's a social transaction between two frienRAB. Going into a shop and "borrowing" a CD to copy it is clearly a crime.

However, downloading a film from someone you don't know, have never met, couldn't even name, is not a social transaction. You don't have a relationship with someone who uploaRAB files. You acquire them without any transaction taking place. Just like when you steal them from a shop.

Legally, borrowing a CD from a friend may be a crime, but it's a part of how society works. Uploading and downloading files you don't own is not.
 
Ah, so you can't pick apart another post intelligently, you resort to attacking someone's spelling......let us see how may errors you have made in your posts today shall we?

Also, your definition of "Pikey" is wrong, see below and enjoy being educated.....

Webster's New Millennium
 
well I think that's quite a naive statement - you are in fact claiming that it's OK for the law to be broken.....but only in what you consider to be a socially acceptable way.... And considering there are millions of people using P2P to get music and films every day, how can you say this is not part of how society works?

I concede that how "wrong" the crime or infringement is depenRAB on the individual....but I believe that you need to think about who the "victim" of the crime is - the artist(s) or owner(s) of the copyright - and whether it's downloaded off Meganova or borrowed off a mate, the copyright holder doesn't see a penny.

in that respect I fail to see how one crime differs from the other
 
at the end of the day........................

everyone has there own stance Download/buy pirate dvRAB or don't buy dodgy dvRAB.

everyone has an choice.

So less of the bashing and enjoy yourselves:p
 
Knock off Nigel?!??! Hahaha, nice to see someone still trying to peddle that image of people! :D

I don't see the cinema as an enjoyable experience. Uncomfy chairs, crap food and idiots. I much prefer to watch a film in the comfort of my own armchair with a cup of coffee. Also if I need a pee I can pause it. Also, the big screen thing is no real pull for me either, I'm interested in the story generally, I don't need to see Sharon Stone's minge at THAT size!

So I download some things, I'm not going to say what because I have no wish to promote breaking the law, what I do is my own business.
 
at the end of the day, downloading films or buying rips is against the law. Theres no technicality to it.

Many people do it, but its still illegal.

I dont try to rationalize my purchases from overseas, I know what they are and when they don't work or skip I have only myself to shrug to.

But lets not rationalize something that is illegal as okay to do for blah, blah reasons.... Otherwise they come off as excuses. Just admit you're not bothered about doing something that is illegal.

Iadmit that I sometimes buy illegal copies, but in my mind I don't have a problem with stepping over that "line". I take it for what it is and admit to myself what I'm doing is not legal.
 
Is that a good thing? The industry's job is to make money by making films that people will queue up to see at the cinema. If they move away from that model it will mean that fewer people pay to see films at the cinema and the industry will make less money.

I'm not sure how downloading or buying pirate DVRAB will help the film industry to make better films. And as a filmgoer that's all I'm interested in. Not getting something for nothing, but getting better films for my money.
 
Isn't it the opposite: it's part of how society doesn't work? There's no relationship between the people who use P2P to obtain music etc without paying for it; they can't, for example, take in a parcel if the post comes while their uploader's out, or lend their downloader a pint of milk until Monday. So to compare file "sharing" with borrowing a CD and copying it is misleading, because with P2P you're not actually "sharing" anything at all.

I agree that ultimately there's no legal justification for borrowing a friend's CD and copying it but my argument is that society relies on interaction between people, not machines, and the law should - even if it currently doesn't - recognise that two people sharing a CD is very different from millions of people all copying each other's files without ever knowing each other.
 
Have to say I do occasionally watch or download movies via the internet, however since I have no wish to download anything more recent than 20 years old I don't feel incredibly guilty.
I am also only downloading movies I have on video as a way to save storage space, having no way to transfer same from video to dvd.

DVd prices are sometimes a little expensive but good deals are to be had if you shop around.
I do however object strongly to old movies still going for high prices, that's wrong.

In many cases the actors director and producer are all dead the film company out of business but because some company bought the rights to the film they think its ok to make us pay through the nose.

I personally think movies should have a time limit say 50 years after that they become public domain.
That's not unreasonable it would mean anything before 1958 would be free now.
Even better if they made it 30 years but I dont see that happening :)

On another note as has already been pointed out "I think"
Much piracy of Movies "and computer games for that matter"
Happens either within the film "or game" company or during duplication.
How else could such copies flood the market at or sometimes before release date.

Ebay, it has to be mentioned has many many cheap dvRAB, "movie and game" all coming from sources in the far east, could it be many of these countries make the original duplicates for the companies concerned then run off a few thousand more illegally ?
 
I'll admit i do Download films and TV Shows (Especially shows like House and Lost which get shown earlier in the states) because it's easy and I like the freedom you get, like someone else said, you can pause it, stop and watch it later, etc. I do however still go to the cinema, I only pay for films I think deserve my money, I've been to the cinema at least 8 times this year.
 
That is not true.

Asda made certain statements which were not true and Bloomsbury sent them a solicitor's letter pointing this out. Asda agreed to pay Bloomsbury the money they owed and Bloomsbury agreed to supply the book on their usual terms.

Each retailer buys stock from the publisher according to terms agreed between the parties, which includes a discount from the published price. It is then up to the retailer whether they sell the book for an amount above the discounted price, in which case they make a profit, or below the discounted price, in which case they make a loss. Asda chose to make a loss.

Some other retailers chose to sell at a loss and some believed that this was not good business and pitched the price slightly higher. But Asda's comments did not affect the cost price of the book, so by selling it for
 
It's the people that download films illegally and then moan how crap they are that annoy me as well. If you don't pay to see it legally then you lose the right to have a valid opinion IMV.
 
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