*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia N97
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@IsaacDFP,
Yes of course you are 100% correct when you say
"First of all, I know it is possible, Nokia Engineers are very well capable of putting 512 RAM and OMAP 3 in there if they wanted to. So the technology exist, my question was, if it exist outside of Nokia Labs.."
Of course the technology exists to do what you suggest as that minus quite that much Ram is exactly what Nokia's rivals have done with their 2009 flagships.
That's why so many of us aren't interested in the N97 as that's what many of us expected and wanted the N97 to be. Then we all would've hailed the N97 as the flagship it could of and should of been worthy of the billing Nokia gave it. But the only time they can do this is when they are designing and building the device and the main board after that forget it, it just can't be done. It's not a desktop with replaceable or upgradable parts it's one highly integrated board so the answer is no it can't be done as str123 pointed out many of us looked at this years ago when the N95 and a few other devices that were low on Ram came out and it was really needed.
But hey if you know someone that can do it I'll wait to see the results while you prove all of us that know better we are wrong but somehow i doubt you or anyone else is going to be able to achieve it. Unless of course they rebuild a whole new main board and manage to copy over all the information required for it to work. Now even if all of that is possible just how much do you think it's going to cost you for a proper specified N97 $3-4,000 or more?
Marc
Yes of course you are 100% correct when you say
"First of all, I know it is possible, Nokia Engineers are very well capable of putting 512 RAM and OMAP 3 in there if they wanted to. So the technology exist, my question was, if it exist outside of Nokia Labs.."
Of course the technology exists to do what you suggest as that minus quite that much Ram is exactly what Nokia's rivals have done with their 2009 flagships.
That's why so many of us aren't interested in the N97 as that's what many of us expected and wanted the N97 to be. Then we all would've hailed the N97 as the flagship it could of and should of been worthy of the billing Nokia gave it. But the only time they can do this is when they are designing and building the device and the main board after that forget it, it just can't be done. It's not a desktop with replaceable or upgradable parts it's one highly integrated board so the answer is no it can't be done as str123 pointed out many of us looked at this years ago when the N95 and a few other devices that were low on Ram came out and it was really needed.
But hey if you know someone that can do it I'll wait to see the results while you prove all of us that know better we are wrong but somehow i doubt you or anyone else is going to be able to achieve it. Unless of course they rebuild a whole new main board and manage to copy over all the information required for it to work. Now even if all of that is possible just how much do you think it's going to cost you for a proper specified N97 $3-4,000 or more?
Marc
SpanishGirl
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So many ******** in here....there is no effin' pre-order delay....
1.There was no date to begin with to say that there was a delay
2.The June 2nd date was for distributors to get it or somethin like that...not for retailers like Amazon to start shipping out.
3. The June 30th date is only for people preordering starting now.
4. The first people who ordered through Amazon should have it by June 17th.
5. The keyboard is not horrible or anything like it. ONly one or two people said they didn't like the keyboard ...I just read a review over on www.symbianfrance.com (it's in french). The person who reviewed it, spent a week with the N97...he said the keyboard sin't the best in the world, but is VERY USABLE and he even think he could write an article on his blog with it. AND HE SAID THERE IS PREDICTIVE TEXT....
GET FACTS BEFORE YOU START BASHING A PHONE YOU NEVER HELD, all some people in here are doing is bashing the N97 because they don't want it, and they want other people to join them in not wanting it.
1.There was no date to begin with to say that there was a delay
2.The June 2nd date was for distributors to get it or somethin like that...not for retailers like Amazon to start shipping out.
3. The June 30th date is only for people preordering starting now.
4. The first people who ordered through Amazon should have it by June 17th.
5. The keyboard is not horrible or anything like it. ONly one or two people said they didn't like the keyboard ...I just read a review over on www.symbianfrance.com (it's in french). The person who reviewed it, spent a week with the N97...he said the keyboard sin't the best in the world, but is VERY USABLE and he even think he could write an article on his blog with it. AND HE SAID THERE IS PREDICTIVE TEXT....
GET FACTS BEFORE YOU START BASHING A PHONE YOU NEVER HELD, all some people in here are doing is bashing the N97 because they don't want it, and they want other people to join them in not wanting it.
costescu_andrei1975
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The screen on this phone is bigger than the 5800 so it'll be a little easier, but really I don't even care if they don't implement it anywhere else just implement multitouch for the keyboard or do something so that pressing 2 keys at once makes those 2 letters appear so the virtual keyboard would be 10000x easier to use.
teardrops on my guitar
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At the same time, he really likes the 5800. Apples and oranges, but that's a device, and probably the only S60 phone that I've been underwhelmed by (returned it the same day I opened it).
Lesson learned: to each his own - even with the great Steve Litchfield (whose S60 content, agreed upon or not, is some of the best on the Web. Then again, maybe I just enjoy the Brit accent...).
Lesson learned: to each his own - even with the great Steve Litchfield (whose S60 content, agreed upon or not, is some of the best on the Web. Then again, maybe I just enjoy the Brit accent...).
Mr. Scythe
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I think Blaxx expressed it best. We don't care if it's the fastest or middle of the pack as long as it does what we want it to do. You will have been proven right if Nokia experiences a 5800'esque quick recall due to replete Out of Memory errors or if the Facebook app brings the phone to it's knees needing continued reboots. If purchasers of N97 still get to enjoy Ngage games (maybe not the hardware optimized versions, but adaptations / new releases) and never see an out of memory error or experience any lockups, then you'll be proven 100% wrong.
Reality is somewhere in between... if I see one or two out of memory errors that are corrected with a software/firmware update at some point in the near future and I then to get the point you're proven wrong, you will have been right for a short time period that software optimization fixed and made you wrong about after that point.
In any case you're in the wrong thread, I think. It would be analogous to me going into the Omnia thread and every few pages repeatedly ranting about it's lack of QWERTY or insufficient storage and wondering why Samsung don't pull their head out and get with the bleeding edge on storage and what not.
That's not where Samsung wanted to go in the same way Nokia wasn't trying to push the hardware envelope with N97. Will Samsung go with QWERTY and bigger built in storage? Maybe. Should they? Regardless of the opinion on that, it doesn't belong in the Omnia thread more than once or twice.
Or many of us just aren't interested in gaming and Nokia would be wasting their efforts as much as they have with those not interested in social networking or the larger concept of interactive Internet wherever you go. If you weren't into music on your phone, I definitely wouldn't recommend a 5800 to you. If you weren't interested in QWERTY, I woudln't recommend an E71, much less an N97 since that's a major portion of it's appeal and focus. If you weren't interested in a good camera and touchscreen, neither N97 nor Omnia would be on the short list. Etc etc.
Reality is somewhere in between... if I see one or two out of memory errors that are corrected with a software/firmware update at some point in the near future and I then to get the point you're proven wrong, you will have been right for a short time period that software optimization fixed and made you wrong about after that point.
In any case you're in the wrong thread, I think. It would be analogous to me going into the Omnia thread and every few pages repeatedly ranting about it's lack of QWERTY or insufficient storage and wondering why Samsung don't pull their head out and get with the bleeding edge on storage and what not.
That's not where Samsung wanted to go in the same way Nokia wasn't trying to push the hardware envelope with N97. Will Samsung go with QWERTY and bigger built in storage? Maybe. Should they? Regardless of the opinion on that, it doesn't belong in the Omnia thread more than once or twice.
Or many of us just aren't interested in gaming and Nokia would be wasting their efforts as much as they have with those not interested in social networking or the larger concept of interactive Internet wherever you go. If you weren't into music on your phone, I definitely wouldn't recommend a 5800 to you. If you weren't interested in QWERTY, I woudln't recommend an E71, much less an N97 since that's a major portion of it's appeal and focus. If you weren't interested in a good camera and touchscreen, neither N97 nor Omnia would be on the short list. Etc etc.
Regarding the widget homescreen...
Can't a company like Epocware create a product that allows for more home widgets on the homescreen? I have Handy Shell on my E90 and it allows for more icons on the homescreen.
I don't mind paying for software that will make my phone more efficient. I think they expect us to do such.
Can't a company like Epocware create a product that allows for more home widgets on the homescreen? I have Handy Shell on my E90 and it allows for more icons on the homescreen.
I don't mind paying for software that will make my phone more efficient. I think they expect us to do such.
Noriel Justine Q
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Of course NAM will be behind - N97 will probably sell 5 times or more in e.g Europe and even more in China (biggest N Series market) so if I was Nokia I would still worry about them first - even if I realised that gaining market share in the US requires a continued and better effort too.
xMsz.Vanessa.Mariia
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New pics:
More official pics from http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nokia-N97/41087041183?ref=nf
And also a new video here
More official pics from http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nokia-N97/41087041183?ref=nf
And also a new video here
thunderandlightning_ky
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Quoted for truth.
evilcandyfloss
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So how is everybody doing? Beautiful day today huh?
Mr. secret
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:lolup: :lolup: :lolup:
sahranghae_s2
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I have to agree. I think they are bringing it with this phone. Now that I've seen a few vids of it in action I can say without a doubt this is no 5800. In fact the 5800 seems to be a one-off piece they made for 2 reasons:
1. As a foil for their real intentions
2. Easy cheap revenue from Nokia fans who wanted to use a S60 touch screen device. If I saw this video before I played with the 5800 I would have never bought the 5800. But then again Nokia successfully parted me from my money again.
More and more I don't think I can compare this to the 5800 and more and more I feel like buying one.
Interface is key on a touch device and it looks like there are major improvements over the 5800. I have to say it looks impressive.
1. As a foil for their real intentions
2. Easy cheap revenue from Nokia fans who wanted to use a S60 touch screen device. If I saw this video before I played with the 5800 I would have never bought the 5800. But then again Nokia successfully parted me from my money again.
More and more I don't think I can compare this to the 5800 and more and more I feel like buying one.
Interface is key on a touch device and it looks like there are major improvements over the 5800. I have to say it looks impressive.
