*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia N86 8MP

Congras! I'm getting mine soon too. N97 is just too expensive

The camera on n86 looks better then Innov8.

Please tell me it has FM transmitter?

How is the build quality compared to n85, any wobbles or creaks?

The symbols on Key 1 and Key 3 are Chinese language?
 
This morning the camera was working, then it stopped working yet again. I got sick of it working at random times so I did a backup then did a hard reset using *#7370#. The camera is working... for now. I wonder what caused the problem? If I remember right, after I transferred an image file from the phone to my computer and right back to it did something funny. I also deleted some of the stupid music files like the gay Indie songs that came with it. Maybe doing one of those was the problem? After doing the hard reset, the phone said there something unsafe on the memory card? Another thing I should mention but forgot is that WMV video files wouldn't play at the same time my camera wasn't working. After the hard reset, I can view WMV files. The FLV video files always worked.

Is it better to save data on the phone's memory or memory card. Which is faster. Which kind of data is better for each? Would be saving captured images on the phone's memory be better? Should applications be saved on the memory card or the phone's memory? I'm guessing applications on the phone's memory and data files such as documents on the memory card?

Grado headphones with the audio jack is good for me. I didn't try the headphones it came with and don't plan on ever doing so. Who listens to music on a phone's speaker anyway? Speakers are inferior compared to headphones and cost significantly more for the same quality.
 
Despite my issues with GPS, I really like the N86, for the Camera, the dual slide, the latest version of S60 3rd edtion.

But the N86 has one serious flaw, for me, that it shares with every other N series phone I've tried in the last couple years. If I'm in a noisy setting, with even just very mild background noise, like a cafe, the microphone picks up background noise and way over-amplifies it, in a way that is totally annoying for my caller. I found this in the N73, N79, N80, N82, N95, when I tested them. I don't know why Nokia just ignores this problem year after year.

My old 6290 is much better, because it's a clamshell, places the microphone closer to the mouth, and can therefore keep the gain on the microphone low enough not to overamplify background noise.

I see Nokia is now putting active noise cancellation in the 6720 Classic and the E72. Why ignore the flagship N series phones? Motorola, for all their problems, has been putting noise cancellation in its phones (crystal talk) for years.

This is a big disappointment. I was hoping the N86 would be different or at least a little bit better. Not just as crappy as phones from three years ago. I'm often trying to have phone conversations from cafes and out in the world (you know, where people use cell phones). It may, sadly, be a deal breaker for me. I really don't want to have to get a bluetooth headset (which I don't like) just because Nokia can't bother to put noise cancellation in their most expensive, highest end phones.
 
the e55 or the e71 would be the closest to a candy bar, but Nokia since they are geared more towards the business person.

As much as I hate to see the same phone re-released, I think Nokia could make a fair amount of money by just producing an N82 with 3G. Maybe make the screen a little larger. Market it as the N82 NAM and call it a day. It would be profitable, since they already have 99% of the parts manufactured.
Hell, if they can put out 4 versions of the N95 (not including the n98, n86, and n85) then why not another n82.
They could even use the excuse of a down economy as the reason for not completely revamping a new phone.
 
When I got my N86 I entered my gmail details into the wizard to setup gmail push, after completion Nokia sent this email to my gmail automatically signing me up.



then a day later:


Now when you say direct connect you simply mean that you can manually click "send & receive" to check your email and no longer have it pushed (pulled) to you. You no longer have email automatically come to your phone.
 
Yeah, I kind of also want to get the N86 as the last great dual slider phone. And I like the camera. But as a Linux user, the N900 does attract me a lot as the first phone running something like a real Linux distribution, although the size of the N900 seems a little impractical to me for an everyday phone. On the other hand, if Nokia had put the same camera in the N900 as the N86, I'd be even more drawn to the N900. Honstely given the size and expense of the N900, I can't really see any reason Nokia couldn't have put the same sensor and everything in the N900, it seems like it's just for the purpose of product differentiation from the N86.


To me the E72 is more of a niche business/Blackberry audience type phone. But if there are devices with good/decent keyboards like the N900 and Touch Pro 2, if they get a little bit thinner/smaller, and if they basically adopt what's best about the E72 along with a touch screen, it seems like they would serve the texting/emailing purpose all the better. Plus for business people offering better potential integration with and display of the web, office documents, calendars, etc.; offering something more and more like a real pocketable desktop computer experience. It's hard for me seeing much of a future for the E72 and current Blackberry form factors. I'm not advocating that, it's just where it seems like sooner or later things are going to head. I think there will be basically high end smartphones with large touch screens and some with slide out qwerty keyboards and then a mid/low range increasingly filled with E72 type options representing the older technology. And way at the bottom phones with numeric keypads. It's hard to imagine, but I wonder if eventually the numeric keypad will survive at all (except as an onsreen touch option)? How many people still use a phone just as a phone? Or more importantly, what are the teenagers doing these days? Do they even talk on the phone anymore? Or are they just always texting, etc.? Whatever they're doing will determine the future of form factors.
 
I like the Hero a lot better still, it looks like sony was copying too many designs from other makers.

How about a Quad-LED flash? Think that would be good enough? lol
 
There wasn't any particular agenda. Although yes you're right the strawberry one was taken to specifically test low light conditions (which the N86 is meant to be good at). I did miss out a couple of the pictures which were repetitive and I did try and take a range of subjects.

I was time restricted and available subjects were some what restricted too (e.g. very few people want to be in example photos). Its a lot easier to choose things that don't change so you can do a direct comparison.

I have now added one more group at the request of a commenter which is flash from 3+ metres away. Quite an interesting result.

And yes Steve is going to do more testing on dark etc conditions. However I wouldn't obsess over such conditions. Its about all round performance.
 
The multimedia key is really gone?! Wtf nokia! So first they remove the pencil key which i loved. Now they remove the MM key! So bring back the pencil key then. Dont just keep picking off keys with no replacements.

Nokia runs like chicken with its head cut off i swear.
 
Thank you so much for the link! Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it has the part I would need to replace the actual charger port.
Am I missing it?
 
I was just thinking about Nokia and not other manufacturer's. I know the
SE c905a takes excellent pics in the day and night, but the phone is plagued with problems. It's a real shame that SE continues to come out with problematic phones.

Long live the N95. Best Nseries phone to date. :2thumbs:
 
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