I agree about this being the place to rant, but why rant about something you claim not to want? the sad thing is he will buy n86 and n97 and complain about both even though he knows right now that he doesnt want them and wont like them.
even though its already behind other manufacturers 8mp slides, it will still be relevant because nokia has a strong following. people will ignore others and wait until this phone launches, regarless of timing. im not sure what the OS is, but the s8300 looks pretty sweet right now. slightly bigger screen, more pixels and the price isnt too bad.