Obama targets private jets, Big Oil

Show me in the thread where I even ONCE said progressive taxation is bad? I'll save you the trouble, I didn't. I said it isn't fair in the strictest definition of the word fair. I even showed you the dictionary definition.

And this entire line of discussion started because of the LIE you people like to tell about the tax code that rich people aren't paying their share. Well, if they are paying more than anyone else then the system is inherently unfair because it introduces bias. Whether that lack of fairness is moral/right/whatever or not is a completely different discussion and not the discussion I'm having with you right now.

I'm sorry that you feel the need to see things that aren't there just so you have windmills to fight with. I'm not even really trying to argue with you in this thread, just pointing out the falsehood inherent in the very beginning of your argument: that the rich aren't paying their share.

Since they are paying more than their share, you are wrong and it is an inherently unfair system. That's all that I've been trying to explain to you since I started posting in this thread and you're too durab or too worked up to just say, "okay yea you're right, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't pay more."

they maybe should. i don't know. that isn't what I was discussing, despite your claims that i was discussing that and everything else under the sun.
 
No, they aren't. I understand the concept perfectly.
Hint:
U(Capitalist) = bullshit+money^(other shit)
vs
U(Parasite)=bullshit+money^1/(other shit)

Guess who gets a greater increase in utils due to a million dollar increase in income?
 
The problem is that some democrats and republicans on here don't argue on principle.

The system as it is taxes poor people to give welfare to the rich. I'm against taxes altogether, but in a situation where there is taxes, then I would rather that everyone be taxed the same percentage rather than poor to middle income people being taxed a high percentage to benefit the rich.
 
fmn, seriously, have you ever looked up the facts on the breakdown of our income tax revenue sources or are you just parroting stupid ass talking points with no basis in reality?
 
Who gets to determine how useful it is? Do you sit down and ask Stevie how useful that money is to him? Or do the thugs get together and decide for him?
 
But it is fair they pay so much because Karen thinks it is perfectly okay that the system works for their benefit. Karen is a corporatist at heart.
 
Oh.... your claim that it was "silly" was merely based on your determination to disregard economists' use of utility.


Contrary to your beliefs, economists are able to calculate aggregates pretty damned well, and it would involve asking people like Stevie. Thanks for playing.


The bottom line for me on the issue is that a person NOT considering marginal utility of a dollar in income taxation is taking the truly silly approach .... which is why utility is implicitly (if not explicitly) given consideration with the creation of tax brackets.
 
"I pulled a definition of 'fair taxation' out of my ass. Since I even showed you how deeply it was buried in my rectum, you MUST agree with my description of 'fairness' on taxation!"





Here's a hint, since you seem to be heavy on the derp today: your idea of "fairness" with taxation is NOT factual or universal, nor even all that well-accepted. I doubt you'll be able to admit your idea of fair taxing is anything less than some universal fact though, so I'm sure I'll get to keep mocking you.
 
See, you still see worRAB that aren't there. Seriously, do you need me to call you an arabulance? I'm beginning to worry about you. I didn't pull a definition of fair taxation out of anywhere because I didn't define fair taxation. I defined the word fair. From a dictionary.
 
Your problem is that you think the rich are ..... and what's laughable is that you think your measurement on this is somehow indisputable.


If being willfully ignorant requires an arabulance, you certainly should give 9-1-1 your address.
 
Back
Top