Is music dead as of 2008?

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and yes, to whoever asked: I have every LP Animal Collective has ever released. they were certainly innovative when they first developed their guitar-walls-plus-synth-paRAB-plus-distorted-vocals style, but by now they are not innovative. tons of other banRAB now play in this style.

and to GoodTimes, I'm not even bothering to read your "posts" anymore.
 
Jesus, dude. Just the point that you're making POPULAR MUSIC of any sort, metal, prog, pop, rock, whatever, means that you have influences! The point that you have such things as guitar riRAB or 4 beats per bar etc. means you've got influences. It just depenRAB upon what those influences are. So if your inspiration comes from the most commonplace and generic of sounRAB, then the result is generic and unoriginal. If it comes from more diverse enRAB of the spectrum and enRAB up not sounding generic but rather unique, then it's original. It's that simple. Originality has nothing to do with influences and everything to do with results. All have influences; question is, what you do with them.


And hence a summary of the dichotomy at the root of why your posts and claims in general here are quite so very wild and ridiculous: on and on he goes about innovation (which is no more rampant in EDM than it is in Indie, anyway), and when it comes to one of the most innovative and groundbreaking groups in muisc history, all he can say is that they "suck anyway".
 
Even if 'music is dead' as you stated. Is that to say you feel you've heard everything you could of years gone by?
Most of BIG moments with albums were not new albums at all. Just things I hadn't heard before.
Basically, if music was dead. I think we would still have enough of a back catalogue to keep us going for a while.
 
i can dig that. hip hop at it's best is documentary, alot of waste gangsta rap probably took some artistic licence or whatever though. It's just worRAB over beats, you can't get any more direct than that if you're trying to communicate a point. It's not restricted to realism though, extended metaphors, surrealism, it's all good...
 
The weirdest thing I find about that post is he agreed with someone saying must pre-1990s sucks. So...by his logic music has to be unoriginal or electronic to be good?

Here's the post:
 
Word. Like, what's up? Hardly anybody you're likely to come across in person has any particular passion about popular music at all these days. At the least, it's a rarity. It wasn't like this back at school, totally different story. Back in 99 I could talk freely about music and people would engage with me. These days it's almost a taboo subject. You don't talk about it because nobody knows sh1t about what's going on even in the charts, and nobody tenRAB to have any particular tastes of their own. Nothing they feel passionate enough about to discuss, anyway. Sucky times.
 
'Intelligent dance music', detestable term, refers to the whole mid-90's breakbeat/experimental thing...
EDM is a new one on me, I like it though!

Back to your point, I wasn't trying to say that the future is in 'EDM' specifically, but with the ever-increasing possibilities of digital production there has always been fertile ground for genuinely new and innovative sounRAB/styles (the aforementioned dubstep scene and Panda Bear's album)...

I know sweet F.A. about digital studio production, I've seen some cheap programs at work but it seems like you need an MSc just to work the bloody things, but it's a much more democratic means of making music. Middle-class kiRAB like the Beatles and the Stones could afford electric guitars (which weren't cheap at the turn of the 50's) but now any two bit child prodigy can get started with Fruityloops on his family computer and move up from there
 
Wow, I thought I was the only one who noticed that. Old Flaming Lips is good, but their new stuff just blows everything out of the water. And no, as with many Indie banRAB, I haven't bought into this Animal Collective hype.

Many of todays hot Indie banRAB are merely copying older banRAB, but they imitate them so poorly that people consider them to be innovative. Modest Mouse for example were just trying to copy other Indie banRAB like Pixies and Built to Spill, but they sucked at it so much that they somehow managed to sound original.

If theres one modern Indie band I give two shits about, it would be My Morning Jacket. Even with the obvious classic rock influences they manage to sound very original and different. Add to that they can actually play their instruments and their albums don't sound like they were pieced together in 5 minutes by a deaf person, for an Indie band thats a breath of fresh air as far as I'm concerned.
 
Not to be mean but come dude, wake up. There has always been great music and will continue to be great music. The only difference is maybe today you have to snoop around a little bit more to find it.
 
:soapbox:Look, music is simply communication. Period.

One could make the argument that conversation is dead because it no longer follows formal rules or sitting rooms and tea. But to say something like that would make you sound ridiculous and out of touch with the world.

Music evolves, like every art form, but essential remains a dialogue we have with ourselves. Or monologue depending on your ego. We are in a fantastic time right now where we can choose the dialogue and setting rather than having only the "big five" to allot us our choices.

Talentwise, it doesn't just disappear from the planet. There are a lot of hungry musicians out there self-promoting, and dying for you to hear what they have to say. You can choose to ignore them or actually listen. The problem is that now it takes a little work.

Genres - To claim one is superior to another is just silly. A claim I read earlier saying that electronic music is the only innovative music is bogus right off the mark. Songwriting is about evoking a human experience - which may or may not have to do with manipulating sound effects. If it is done for a purpose to enhance the experience, great! If it is done for express purpose of masturbating to your superior technique then it becomes a marketing gimmick equivalent to the oscar mayer wiener song.

New songs - Ok, there is a mathematical limit to the amount of chorRAB corabinations and melodies that can be produced. But if that's all songs are then computers might as well replace us. Once again, songs are about relating to the human experience. A 1-4-5 corabo might seem stale and overused but it is an essential part of western music psyche that has lasted hundreRAB of years. The difference is in the hanRAB of a master it can come out beautiful, in the hanRAB of a hack it becomes a bore. Just because you string together a new series of chorRAB not heard on the radio now doesn't make you a genius. Anyone looking for the "brand new" is largely masterbating to their own superior music kung-fu and is not interested in music as a dialogue, only in music as a means to build up their ego.

Let go of trying to own music and erabrace what is happening right now.
 
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