IGN Top 100 Animated TV Series Talkback

bah humbug.

EDIT: You know, they're a comment over there that some up all this discussion pretty nicely:

"Hey, {insert show name here} should be higher/lower because {blah blah no one cares}.
 
Thanks for the insightful comment.

I agree with him, though. Very rare is it that I agree with IGN, especially since they spat on Godhand, one of the best games of the last gen. Their reviews are pretty terrible, the only good thing the site is for is for getting news on games and screenshots. All IMO, of course.

This list does nothing to change my opinion on them.
 
Amazing how people get so worked up over some random guy's list. His list is no more "correct" or "valid" than yours, or some random guy walking down the street.

That being said, if the list doesn't have TMNT 2003, W.I.T.C.H., and Spectacular Spider-Man all above the shows on there currently, it's incorrect. ;)
 
BLASPHEMY!!! J/k :p



Yeah, including the annoying fanboyism. It's bad with them and it's bad with Avatar. For the third time (because it can't be repeated enough :anime:), no more of it please.
 
I think I'll have to agree with you. Granted, I loved "TMNT" when I was a kid, but I doubt I'd be able to watch it today. Come to think of it, I wasn't that old when I stopped watching it altogether. As for "Pok?mon", I can't recall why I watched that in the first place. I guess that I thought it seemed interesting a premise at the time. Hell, I even watched some of the movies; what was I thinking?

Oh, and unless someone have already done this: I'm going to take a guess that either "The Simpsons" or "Looney Tunes" will be #1.
 
This.

But, if it were me making this list, Looney Tunes (or some form of it) would certainly be in the top ten, as would Mickey's House of Mouse.
 
Hey, Shut up, unless you know what you're talking about. I gave a valid reason as to why I think that IGN is crap. I have little respect for a website that makes you pay for additional content.
 
50 - Superfriends
49 - Thundercats
48 - Duckman
47 - Pinky and the Brain
46 - Jetsons
45 - Gargoyles
44 - Battle of the Planets
43 - Samurai Jack
42 - Powerpuff Girls
41 - Tiny Toons

Hmm. Still no surprses. C'mon, IGN, give us a shock!
 
Ease up, man. He was only trying to troll you. If he had something important to add to your comment he would have said it in that post.
 
Now that this list is complete, I can make a few comments about it. But first, let me preface them by saying I'm not "all worked up" about this list, as it's just put out there by a group of 20 and 30-ish video gamers and pop culture "experts" with their own opinions. A lot of posters have been giving people noise just because they have strong opinions about what a list like this should be like, as do I. Since we don't know what criteria (if any) IGN used to come up this list, it's no less valid than any other list with no specific given criteria. As someone that's been watching animation for quite a long time however, I think I have a pretty good handle on the quality and worthiness of these title to be on such a list. For myself, I think the areas that I use to rank animated series are quality of story/setting and writing, popularity and longevity, and overall influence.

Given all that, I found the list intriguing but flawed. I was happily surprised to see shows I rarely see considered for inclusion on a list like this, such as The Boondocks, Spawn, Dungeons and Dragons, Freakazoid, and Galaxy High. At the same time, quite a number of shows have no business on this list, even at the bottom reaches of it like Harvey Birdman, Frisky Dingo, Sealab 2021, Dr. Katz, Star Trek: TAS, or Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Others may belong on this list, but are ranked either too high or too low like Rugrats (only #92?), Teen Titans (only #83?), Johnny Quest (only #77?), Death Note (#51?..over both Dragonball Z and Pokemon?...too high), Muppet Babies (#31?...no, way...too high), and The Tick (#6? In the top ten?..'fraid not...).

Then there are the shows that aren't on this list but probably should be, especially in light of items that are on it. For instance, I can understand Nicktoons like Avatar, Rugrats, and Spongebob's presence on the list, but what about Danny Phantom or (especially) Fairly Oddparents? FOP deserves to be on it if you can make a case for Invader Zim. A few belong on the list (or to be seriously considered for it) just due to their longevity, such as Ed, and Edd, and Eddy (which I never liked, BTW). For anime, I'd put Star Blazers (Space Cruiser Yamato), Sailor Moon, and Samurai X (Ruroni Kenshin) on the list and rearrange some others. Finally, if classic Disney shows like Darkwing Duck, Talespin, Rescue Rangers, and Ducktales can all make this list (inexplicably in the case of Talespin, IMO), why doesn't the best Disney-produced series since Gargoyles (also on the list, as it well deserves to be) make the list--Kim Possible? 80+ eps and two TV movies with some of the best writing and characters they've ever made? Methinks the people over at IGN stopped watching Disney about 15 years ago.

While I appreciate that a number of new shows are being considered and included on this list (which most lists don't seem to consider), I think a number are overrated (in comparison with the others), given how early it is in their run. I love Spectacular Spiderman but don't think it should be higher than 50 (only one season, gang...). Frisky Dingo? How many eps are there total? Clone Wars (CGI)? Not even one season....

Anyway, just my two cents. I like these kind of lists but I sure don't obsess over them. I'm not banging my head on the wall over this, guys...just opinions...
 
Don't worry about that, I used to be like that as well, even over the most trivial thing. Zoro/Zolo thing, god I was young and didn't know better.
 
Sorry, man, you lost me there. Many shows lose their touch after several seasons but this one lost it's touch in just two seasons. Eventually the plots got stale and irrelevant. What made this show good was how down to earth it was for kids: a miserable kid who gets his every wish granted except for the wishes written in Da Rules book (another element I hated because it made the show too convoluted and was just a result of lazy writing). But eventually all the characters became jerks. Timmy, the innocent one, became too much of a brat. And Vicky, he evil babysitter, became too evil. Didn't she rule the world a few times?

Only time this show should be on this list is when they are doing negative numbers. Maybe, then Mr. Hartman might realize that repeating unfunny phrases and words several times won't make them any funnier.
 
I may compile my top 100 list of cartoons that I find/found the best. Whenever some place like IGN or whomever compiles a list of their own it's always warped and far from any sense of reality, but it's cool because we all have the power to create our own and make it how we want it. I think the biggest crock was the AFI top 100 movies of all time, that list was terrible and aside from the top 10 it was completely warped. IGN's top 100 video games was a crap list as well.
 
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