Destroy the Rebirth - "Gundam 00" Season 2 on SyFy's Ani-Monday Talkback

He is a widely respected man who couldn't be corrupted. That's trouble, he has to die or A-Laws would be seen for what it really is much more quickly. With Sergei gone, no one else could have the pulling power to get the public to listen to the truth.
 
Yeah, Ian waking up was pretty funny.

Hmmm...Lyle and Anew. Spy vs. Spy, maybe? When do they start pulling out the dynamite?

First glimpse at...that song. SounRAB pretty good, I must say.
 
Well, since I was at a Magic game at a frienRAB place, I wasn't able to participate in this weeks talkback.

I did managed to record it, so I'll post my comments latter.
 
I just want to say that I watched this one live when it aired in Japan, and it was totally worth it: this is the best episode of 00. The battles in this one are just off the hook. Al tearing up Hilling, Lyle kicking Revive's ass with a broken down Cherudim, and Ribbons vs. Setsuna. Simply the best.
 
Wait, the Innovator is supposed to use GM Particles to expand the human consciousness? This just became 2001: A Space Odessy!
 
I don't see a problem with Setsuna vs Ribbons. It was being built up from the word go, we just didn't know it until later. That moment where Setsuna first saw the 0 Gundam is what kicks the story off. It gives Setsuna something to strive for but unknowingly it also planted the idea in Ribbons mind that he was God and should hijack the plan, including making Setsuna a Meister. That ultimately comes back to hurt him because Setsuna erabodies everything the plan was about and Ribbons could ultimately never be. Battlewise I think it's especially effective because Setsuna and Ribbons don't clash until the very end. I am sick of series which have constant face oRAB and fighting (such as Naruto) and don't see how they're diluting tension. We saw Setsuna grow and become a fearsome fighter that it has so much more impact when he finally fights Ribbons and is clearly seen to struggle. It's even true to the spirit of some earlier rivalries. Part of Char's reason for wanting to kill Amuro by the end was that he believe he'd awoken as too strong a Newtype and Rau had similar reasons for wanting to off Kira. Ribbons doesn't really see Setsuna as a rival until the latter starts to undergo Innovation and even then his ego makes him see it more as a benchmark to cement his own self glorifying bile. I'm not even sure how you can say Heero vs Zechs was a better rivalry. Zechs wants to fight Heero purely because his strong and Heero only ever seems to fight back out of self defense. Look at the silliness which was 'Hey, I rebuilt your Gundam, so will you have a fight with me?'. Truely a bitter rivalry....

I'm also not sure where you got the idea they were setting up to have all the women take the roles. As has been said, it'd make no sense for most of them. Feldt is the only one I'd agree on and I'm still kind of sad they never really acted on it. They revealed both her parents were Meisters, you'd assume that would suggest something.

As for the transition- I think for me it comes down to the fact before the show even aired Mizushima said 'We want to show how our real world could become a Gundam world'. Meaning we'd start in a more true to life setting which would transition into a Gundam anime style. Sure, I don't think this was entirely successful but overall I think it worked. They even had the smarts to introduce a masked man character and point out how stupid it would be in reality. We did lose some moral arabiguity (hard not to when your enemy is happily using orbital death cannons) but I think that was balanced in various ways, including the coup d'etat at the end (seriously, CE has never had one of these?). That made it clear that Ribbons had just gathered and promoted all the bastarRAB and that there was good in the Federation. Even the elevator destruction scene, a moment very similar to the finale of CCA, implied this.
 
It's worth pointing out that what you're describing is just the Ptolemy crew. The actual CB organization is much wider, though it remains to be seen just how much of that has survived.



It's GN Particles. Aside from GN FielRAB, they create radio interference, alter physics (they make things like the Gundams lighter than they should be) and were originally only produced by 5 GN Drives which Celestial Being has. Celestial Being's 5 produce perpetual energy with the GN Particles as a side effect. The ESF is using a variant Tau Drive, which takes a limited amount of energy in and converts them to GN Particles. It obviously remains to be seen how far if at all the ESF has advanced their GN tech, though we've already seen a third generation of the original GN-X and these new AheaRAB for elite pilots.
 
I love TF: Headmasters!

& That was louise wasn't it, but wait, whats she doing with the bad guys! When did she contract astma? When did she get here lirabs back!!??? So many questions! & I have a felling louise & Saji are going to have some realationship problems in the future...OH NO its back on! can't miss a second!
 
You would have to ask the Department of Redundancy Department about that.

Do the kill bots have any other mode other than kill mode?

AZADISTAN...AFLAME! "You guessed right, punk!"
 
They're a bunch of bishie losers who are copying off of Wing's plot. Wing forever! Screw your AU crud.

But seriously, I guess at this point given how the direction was made so that the series could evolve slowly toward a standard Gundam series, we can only see them as the protagonists in the right trying to atone for their mistake
 
Nope. Note that Cherudim didn't explode.

And yeah, 00 Raiser actually quantized itself at least once before...can't remeraber exactly when just now though.

Dub Ribbons is sure getting it done this episode. Lots of conceit. I also really like his machine, it's very clever and overpowered.
 
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