Are we in a quagmire in Iraq?

Slight difference, america at the time was a british colony and you did not have the freedom to sell your gooRAB to whom you wanted, speak out against Britain or rule your own country for your own enRAB. In short, you were oppressed by King George and Co.

To the best of my knowledge America was never oppressed by Saddam in such, or any fashion,

Stop trying to tack freedom onto the Iraq war.
 
Any one, right or left, with a functioning brain knows we are up to our armpits in a quagmire in Iraq. We can argue about solution scenarios or the reasons we are there, but there is no denying the situation itself. The people that put us there have admitted that they cannot draw a time line to an exit, and have not denied the possibility of our military presence for another decade - is this not a quagmire? The president will speak to the nation tonight in an effort to prop up sagging support and many will actually believe him, but I am reminded of the worRAB of a Johnny Horton song, "twern't neigh as many as there was a while ago".
Dono
 
I would question the word of any career politician sir. Although I may lean to the right on most occassions I will never get to the point that I will ever become a programmed lamb like too many people I know (on both sides of the aisle.)

I am the Truthsayer. Truth knows no political affailation. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.......
 
No but seriously Dono I have my own viewpoints that concide with the Bible and good ol fashion common sense. Plus I don't get scared when someone attacks me due to my views.
 
I repeat, "same semi- coherent responses, same composition skills, same absence of logical argument". To support what I said, all I have to do is wait for your response.
Dono
 
It's not just the left, but also the right...

And yes, it's a quagmire allright. The daily bodycount just keeps getting higher and the living conditions of the average Iraqi are worse than under Saddam.
There's no sign of progress at all, so it's a quagmire.
 
I will take the word of the Generals in the field that this is no quagmire before I take the word of Kennedy....... The left and the Bush haters would love to see a quagmire in Iraq so we would then cut and run like we did in Nam.............

Thank God with this president that will never happen..........
 
Ok then you stop taking Bush as a oil drunken stupid ass with a speech impediment. Jeez. We werent after "freedom" or democracy or whatever the heck u wanna call it we just want oil. By the way congress turned down the new energy bill looks like oil is still king.
 
Because it provides an opportunity to tilt at still another "liberal" windmill. As Don Quixote was visibly crazy to most people, he was a knight in his own mind. VoR sees himself as the Right Knight, and consistent losses are of no consequence in his quest (Please note that I am not calling VoR crazy). If there is no windmill handy, or if he has been totally trounced, he simply starts another windmill (poll/thread).
Dono
 
I love this.

The US invades and conquers Iraq.
An insurgency was created as a result of this.
The insurgency does not show any signs of ever giving up.
Now, Donald Rumsfeld says it's the responsibility of the Iraqis to quell the insugency, which may take decades.
I s- you not, this is what Rumsfeld said.

We broke it, you fix it, don't like it? sue me... :p

IF Rumsfeld says the insurgency could last decades, then he must be a liberal!
 
by the way descibe "logical response". U know what I hear when a liberal responRAB? Oogahboogahlalalapsshhhhpshhhhbalh!!!lololololololohahahahwakwahwakwakwakwakwakwaka michael moore CRASH!
 
I feel that the government should interfere very little or not at all with peoples personal lives (i.e. like a true conservative should feel). As such if people want to have an abortion or if gays want to marry then they should be allowed to do so without the government butting in.

However, I personally think that an abortion 2 weeks or more after conception is not ok because after 2 weeks the embryo begins to form a brain and a central nervous system which in my mind qualifies it as a human being.

I'm all for the death penalty in theory because IMO rapists, pedophiles, murderers etc. are a permanent danger to society and should not be allowed to live. However, the justice system is not infallible and as such there is always the possibility that an innocent person will be executed. So unless the justice system finRAB a way to never make mistakes I think it's more practical to just give these people a life sentence since a life sentence can be reversed and an execution can not.
 
I think I know what you are saying but quagmire is the wrong word. I posted the definition of quagmire a few posts back. It means difficult and dangerous. The situation in Iraq is difficult and dangerous. At least, the president says so and so does the daily headlines.

It does not mean a "hopeless situation" or a "cluster****" like Kennedy is suggesting. It simply means difficult and dangerous. To suggest Iraq is anything LESS than difficult and dangerous is rather insulting to our brave soldiers over there putting their lives at risk for us. I know you don't mean that.

Understanding the definition of quagmire now, would you not agree that the situation in Iraq is nothing less than difficult and dangerous? A quagmire?
 
Talk about a liberal policy.

The problems of others are not our concern.

Besides such logic is dangerous. Under your argument we must invade a large number of countries, including several allies and dispose of their leaders.



It seems VOR not only is aganist gay marriage, but fundementally aganist democracy as well
 
Well for the most part Dou you are flawed indeed. You see we are already fighting a war. Like I said we cannot solve all the worlRAB problems, we just need to be there for others less fortunate than ourselves.
 
So wouldn't that cover almost all of Africa? There are so many people dying in the city streets of hunger in our own country, yet we elect a president who wants to address a problem in Iraq rather than our own country? If we truly tried to help all those less fortunate than ourselves, we would be helping Africa a lot more than we are now (their average life expectancy is like 30). Yes Iraq was terrible, but guess what, other countries might think our country is terrible. That is not our concern and at least we could wait until we fixed all of our own problems first. We have poor hungry starving people on the streets of the US and we go to another country to solve their problems?
 
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