Are torrent invite communities really trading in disguise?

Animangalicious

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I gave out one invite away on one of those secretive invite forums, aptly named IC. I gave an FTN invite to someone chosen based on the fact that they had a slow home connection, which I felt would be a good fit with a ratio-free tracker. Within a week, the fucker had buffered his account with a friends seedbox to 525GBs. Over a year later, he has maybe 10GBs more. I don't know whether he leeches all the time and that is the result of his slow connection or whether he just barely touches his account now that the novelty wore off. Whatever, I couldn't do anything else with the invite except give it away to some random dude posting two ratio proofs and a speedtest.
 
I gave out one invite away on one of those secretive invite forums, aptly named IC. I gave an FTN invite to someone chosen based on the fact that they had a slow home connection, which I felt would be a good fit with a ratio-free tracker. Within a week, the fucker had buffered his account with a friends seedbox to 525GBs. Over a year later, he has maybe 10GBs more. I don't know whether he leeches all the time and that is the result of his slow connection or whether he just barely touches his account now that the novelty wore off. Whatever, I couldn't do anything else with the invite except give it away to some random dude posting two ratio proofs and a speedtest.

thats a real shame but like you said you gave it away to some random

dude that's your problem you should give it to someone you know and

will use the account easier said then done but that's the best way for you

to feel good about giving away your invite
 
I gave one to a real life friend who barely used it either since he liked seeding on Bitsoup better.

Fwiw I don't really care about either since invites expire. Besides, some random dude gave me my invite...
 
bysomebodydumb said:
4th post in, bro. =P

I scanned over this thread, and a lot of the classics that I would recommend have already been mentioned (Super Troopers, Lebowski, Dumb & Dumber, etc.), but I didn't happen to notice anyone suggesting these two epics:

Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Dazed & Confused

Under recommend a good comedy movie

Seriously see the level that I have to deal with.
You can say that SuperTroopers is a good movie ,you can even say that Dumb and Dumber is the second coming of Christ for all I care, but please never refer to them as classics.

And saying that Gramdma's Boy is good or even a movie is just ...wrong.

Btw also listed A Night at the Roxbury, Undercover Brother,Kung Pao: Enter the Fist,Starsky and Hutch , The White Chicks and the list goes on.
If you changed the list to terrible ,failed , miserable attempts at a comedy movie then they would be right.

Someone even put Lethal Weapon:blink: I know that it's open to interpretation but I don't think amid the whole unhinged suicidal cop , murdering, drug dealing mercenaries torture and death thing a comedy was what director Richard Donner was especially going for.
Lots of films have moments of humour in them ,it doesn't make them comedies .

Just saying if membership in trackers was restricted by an appreciation of what you were downloading most people would be using Mininova.
 
I don't follow that logic IdolEyes...
Take for example the medical marijuana laws. My state says we can have marijuana for medical reasons, therefor, they support my right to not be prosecuted for using it medicinally.

Same goes for any law, or rule. It shows support: a common feeling of acceptance by the majority who are in control.

Guess thats just my opinion, but having a trading section is basically saying openly that 'hey, this is OK here'
 
Keep it simple Do not ask for invite .... nor make a give away let staff recruit members from different forums ... no one gets disabled for inviting bad users.

If it would work like that staffers would waste all their time answering applicants and not taking care of the site as for what kool said I also don't have any friends that torrent so why should i be denied a specific site if I don't know a user personally (and you know their are allot of people who have invited real life friends to trackers and they cheated/stole ect.... no guarantee can ever be made about an invitee)
 
Man...this section has gone to boredom land.. we need to revive this mofuka

We need some fresh new ideas and topics to get the discussions going. It's been a couple of days since I saw a worthy-of-talking-about thread and it's not even even a new topic.
 
The non-movement list is one of the things I can't really understand in TPS. I'm tvseries maniac and I want to join BitmeTV for example. Noone is allowed to request or ga invites of this tracker. I'm a good user with perfect proofs. What's the point of not allowing to request? Is there something I can do except pming highly reped guys offering bj in private?
I would try to find out what that tracker's position is on letting people in there. If they don't *want* to make it easy for people to join, then that's their choice whether you like it or not. If you're determined and capable, you can get into any place eventually.

For getting my content, I personally prefer trackers like what.cd which are not so closed and actually give good people an opportunity to join and don't give themselves a restricted user limit. But if bitmetv doesn't neessarily offer anything better than other places which might be easier to join (I'm not sure if that's the case), I wouldn't bother, there's no point in either trying or getting hung up about it.
 
you and i are one a similar wavelength, frequency and speed :happy:

You are absolutely 100% correct. The worst example I've seen of this is on a site called TTInvite, where invites are exchanged for 'invite points', and any user 'giving away' an invite can stipulate the number of invite points they want to receive in return. This basically means that trading is similar to a bartering-based economy, and invite giveaway communities are currency-based economies.

Then, the invite communities act all righteous and claim that "we're not causing any harm, we ban trades, we only do giveaways!"

The thing is, tracker staff who've given the issue some thought don't dislike trades any more than giveaways. Both of them are equally bad in our eyes, because both of them fundamentally undermine the reasons the torrent sites are invite only in the first place.

Torrent sites are invite-only because the admins need to keep the site secure and keep the economy working. Once random people start getting invited in, no matter if it's a trade or a giveaway, both of those pillars start collapsing. This is why the so-called 'anti-traders' who think they're all cool because they only give away invites really get to me.

This is also a great point. Public giveaways imo are even more of a security risk, half the time all they want is a speedtest/ratio proof, if that.Anyone can apply and it is porbabaly easier to get some invites in a giveaway than a trade. Public invites -> bad

Just wondering, but how come what.cd dont have some sort of arrangement with fst where invites are not allowed to be given out? or are you only allowed to make agreements on trading..

@TrollinThunder, exactly! its just the fact that there is no point joining a site just for the trophy of it. I would have absolutely no qualms inviting people to my favourite trackers, but i know they would only want to be invited just so they can say "i am at such-and-such". Those people piss me off no end!
 
Now before I really go into this, I'll detail what I normally see on FST:

If someone wants to join a site, they'll make a request and post it in the invite section.

After its posted, people will view the thread and decide whether the poster is worthy of an invite.

When they decide whether someone deserves an invite, they look at their past activity on the site. Have they been making useful posts or just spam? Have they made trades or posted in the trading section before? Have they ever had an account before, or made a request before? If you haven't noticed, one thing is missing: their BT rep.

I've rarely, if ever, seen someone judge a potential invitee by their past giveaways. Most people realize that many members are sketchy at best, and they realize people don't want to risk giving invites out on FST (not to mention many sites ban public GA's). Now that's not to say giving out invites would hurt your chances. If you lack in activity, having given out invites previously could help. I've never seen someone post on a invite request saying "You're a really good and active member of the site, but you haven't given away enough invites".

The key idea is that a BT rep of GA's isn't required.

But now turn to torrent invite communities.

I define trading as this: You are giving an invite with the intent of expecting something in return. Tracker staff ban this as it encourages invites to be given solely by the value of the invite, while ignoring the value of the member. This results in more banned members, more hit and runners, a slower site overall, and more work for the staff.

In torrent invite communities, You are giving an invite with the intent of expecting something in return.

Debate it as much as you like, but invites are almost never given out for the sole purpose of giving out invites. "Rep", along with posts, is one of crucial factors in "climbing up the ranks". Every GA has a rep requirement. If you're a 10,000 post member with no rep, you are not getting an invite. Rep is the most essential factor in acquiring an invite. Sure, you may be giving up a precious invite right now, but you are expecting great dividends. You are giving away an invite now in exchange for getting an invite later.

Take for example one thread I had seen. He was a relatively new member, probably around 1 month. I looked at his GA thread - he had SCC, GFT, the works. Oh an I forgot to mention, he had 8 SCT invites. Within a matter of days, they were ALL given out in rapid succession. He gained huge amounts of rep. He was a star in the community. Now, I know that SCT invites aren't given out for free. Once in a blue moon they may have a competition that gives out 1 or 2 invites, but this guy had 8. There was a recent 2x bonus for donations. But that still equates to paying for 4 invites, which is 50 euros. And by donating for invites you get zero upload credit. All given out, in a matter of days, to the most shady of members, collectors on invite sites. Now, you may argue that this was an act of generosity. But that is the minute exception. More than likely, it was probably a member quickly giving out invites in the hope that he would bolster his rep enough to quickly get an FTN invite (which apparently seem to be all the rage nowadays).

I ask you this: how is this different from trading? You are giving out 8 SCT invites, to total strangers that could very well get you banned from the site, not to mention that that's 50 euros in cold hard cash. You are giving out the invites, with the sole intention of expecting something in return: a high level invite because you are now a reputable member. Reputable, not from posts, activities, or past actions, but because of giving out invites. The sole principle that torrent invite communities revolve around. How is giving something and expecting something in return not trading?
 
I'm glad you said that and I completely agree. Some take their time to put a rating besides the release. It's almost always a 9/10 (you can't give it a 10, that'd be weird, lol).

Why the hate for the "Rate that movie" thread? I use it all the time and others do too for finding something to watch. Quite a few people go that step further, at least adding an IMDB link and the year, maybe even a poster and a small review without spoilers. Also I very seldom see 9 and 10 ratings unless it's older movies i.e. people having watched something, they've heard about, had recommended etc.

And BTW if you think the "rate that movie" posters on whatever site you are on are lazy, then change that by posting decent review. It's simple.
 
Man...this section has gone to boredom land.. we need to revive this mofuka

We need some fresh new ideas and topics to get the discussions going. It's been a couple of days since I saw a worthy-of-talking-about thread and it's not even even a new topic.

Very true indeed :yup:
 
Most of members, while sharing invites, probably look and judge by reputation points. And it can be "wrong". On the other side, if giving away invites here is risk, than one can say that one is worth giving away invite because he/she also "took that risk" (if ones has that "reputation points".

I am just making one giveaway and there will be no "rules", just my personal instinct and perception.

Why am I sharing those invites? I guess it is because, when I registered here few years ago, I was only on Demonoid constantly fighting with low speeds and lack of seeders. I don't like that feeling/situation.

I can lose those accounts, yes, but once before someone else took that risk and invited me. And I am know enjoying privileges of being member at some of the best trackers on the web.

Also, people need to learn to trust more to each other. Constant hatred, suspicion and accusing is leading nowhere.

P.S. Sorry for my english, it isn't my main language.
 
I guess I was going with the definition of support of "to be in favor of " otherwise I'm going to have to create a sig that reads " certain viewpoints are those of the site and the twits really in charge and do not necessarily reflect the views or beliefs of it's staff. " .:idunno:
Still think anyone who doesn't want to trade simply doesn't have to though instead of me telling them not to and them pretending to give a fuck what I say and doing it in secret anyway like other places .
I may be deluding my self about certain things ( as regards FST) but I'm not that delusion.
Kinda like the government and the marijuana thing I suppose. :whistling
 
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