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Are torrent invite communities really trading in disguise?
- Thread starter Animangalicious
- Start date
I'm sorry but I fail to see how trading section here shows that FST supports trading.
I might be mistaken but aren't allowing and supporting two entirely different things.
Many States allow marriage as young as 16 ( or younger ) but I doubt if you will find many that say they support anyone actually doing it.
TBS and the like may put themselves in a better light than FST by their stance but it the words ring a little hollow .
Draconian measures may appeal to those lacking in intelligence but as example after example has shown they do very little in solving any problems ,they merely result in driving them underground.
At least here at FST some people ,agree or disagree with what they do, acknowledge who they are and you then have a choice depending on your sensibilities with whether you wish to associate with them or not.
I might be mistaken but aren't allowing and supporting two entirely different things.
Many States allow marriage as young as 16 ( or younger ) but I doubt if you will find many that say they support anyone actually doing it.
TBS and the like may put themselves in a better light than FST by their stance but it the words ring a little hollow .
Draconian measures may appeal to those lacking in intelligence but as example after example has shown they do very little in solving any problems ,they merely result in driving them underground.
At least here at FST some people ,agree or disagree with what they do, acknowledge who they are and you then have a choice depending on your sensibilities with whether you wish to associate with them or not.
XxXchangingsoulXxX
New member
Ohh, ok. Haven't been in the trade section for a long time. They always used to have one, and if I remember rightly it was the FST mods who acted as middle-men. But if they have stopped it then great.
I couldn't open the link but I looked in the trade section and I assume the thread is the one where a member is trying to recruit middle-men. Even though you implied FST doesn't actively support middle-men, an FST mod still decided to sticky the thread! Obviously someone here decided it was important.The middleman issue is being left to the users consideration here
The non-movement list is one of the things I can't really understand in TPS. I'm tvseries maniac and I want to join BitmeTV for example. Noone is allowed to request or ga invites of this tracker. I'm a good user with perfect proofs. What's the point of not allowing to request? Is there something I can do except pming highly reped guys offering bj in private?I do believe in non-movement, don't get me wrong - but if you say that anti-traders who believe in giveaways are hypocrites then you're also saying that the staff of the trackers allowing that are also hypocrites. It's just a matter of what your opinion on the issue is, and how secure you want your site to be.
I got the samething at TPS. On two separate occasions. Many pm's, from complete strangers either begging or hinting at trades. In my time here at FST, I've gotten maybe two or three pm's from people asking for an invite. And you would think by how people praise TPS(why? I have no idea) and bash FST, that my experience would have been the other way around.
People go to TPS to get invites, people come to FST to discuss filesharing. I see so many people with hidden agendas at TPS, I've never seen anything like that here on FST. The people here are straightforward... either you come here to trade or you come here to have real discussion with people.
Speak for yourself some like myself need nothing in return.It's not really a question, people don't just give away invites without expecting something back for themselves.
omfg...
u really have think so deep and so hard to write all that and make all those connections..
Geez,i understand people hate trading and thats that,but u,on the other hand,are taking this to the next level.ur whole point here is giveaways should also stop....which means ass kissing should be the future.i hope this never happens.
u really have think so deep and so hard to write all that and make all those connections..
Geez,i understand people hate trading and thats that,but u,on the other hand,are taking this to the next level.ur whole point here is giveaways should also stop....which means ass kissing should be the future.i hope this never happens.
A musician from Taiwan
New member
Not at all; you haven't considered interference or even participation rates.As far as I know it only takes two people to have a discussion ( or fight) so unless you want to amend "most people" to "no one " the comment is self negating.
Navo Senthil
New member
I think I know who the guy you're talking about is. Anyways, I'm not going to say his name just so I can protect his identity. Many of the staff members at TorrentInvite.com are NOT a decent bunch because they don't take the time to try and spell correctly or even put a whole sentence together.
As for the trading thing, I think that many of them are. Some people just give out invites to sites that are hard to join only so that they could end up joining the tracker of their dreams. What kind of bull is that? :wacko:
As for the trading thing, I think that many of them are. Some people just give out invites to sites that are hard to join only so that they could end up joining the tracker of their dreams. What kind of bull is that? :wacko:
uncleiniraq
New member
You are absolutely 100% correct. The worst example I've seen of this is on a site called TTInvite, where invites are exchanged for 'invite points', and any user 'giving away' an invite can stipulate the number of invite points they want to receive in return. This basically means that trading is similar to a bartering-based economy, and invite giveaway communities are currency-based economies.
Then, the invite communities act all righteous and claim that "we're not causing any harm, we ban trades, we only do giveaways!"
The thing is, tracker staff who've given the issue some thought don't dislike trades any more than giveaways. Both of them are equally bad in our eyes, because both of them fundamentally undermine the reasons the torrent sites are invite only in the first place.
Torrent sites are invite-only because the admins need to keep the site secure and keep the economy working. Once random people start getting invited in, no matter if it's a trade or a giveaway, both of those pillars start collapsing. This is why the so-called 'anti-traders' who think they're all cool because they only give away invites really get to me.
Then, the invite communities act all righteous and claim that "we're not causing any harm, we ban trades, we only do giveaways!"
The thing is, tracker staff who've given the issue some thought don't dislike trades any more than giveaways. Both of them are equally bad in our eyes, because both of them fundamentally undermine the reasons the torrent sites are invite only in the first place.
Torrent sites are invite-only because the admins need to keep the site secure and keep the economy working. Once random people start getting invited in, no matter if it's a trade or a giveaway, both of those pillars start collapsing. This is why the so-called 'anti-traders' who think they're all cool because they only give away invites really get to me.
Staypuff MarshMallow Man
New member
I'm sorry but I fail to see how trading section here shows that FST supports trading.
I might be mistaken but aren't allowing and supporting two entirely different things.
Many States allow marriage as young as 16 ( or younger ) but I doubt if you will find many that say they support anyone actually doing it.
TBS and the like may put themselves in a better light than FST by their stance but it the words ring a little hollow .
Draconian measures may appeal to those lacking in intelligence but as example after example has shown they do very little in solving any problems ,they merely result in driving them underground.
At least here at FST some people ,agree or disagree with what they do, acknowledge who they are and you then have a choice depending on your sensibilities with whether you wish to associate with them or not.
allowing trading to go on sends the wrong message. especially to those new to private trackers, who see trading going on and think it's appropriate (meanwhile they may be inadvertently compromising the bit torrent community by allowing the wrong element into trackers).
whether it is technically supporting trading or not is irrelevant, because it has the appearance of support. it is better to avoid impropriety, actual or perceived.
if a forum doesn't support trading, it should ban members for doing it. yes trading will still continue somewhere, somehow, just like all illicit activities, but treating it as an illicit activity will send the correct message, teach the uninformed, and reduce trading overall in the bit torrent community.
I think I know who the guy you're talking about is. Anyways, I'm not going to say his name just so I can protect his identity. Many of the staff members at TorrentInvite.com are NOT a decent bunch because they don't take the time to try and spell correctly or even put a whole sentence together.
As for the trading thing, I think that many of them are. Some people just give out invites to sites that are hard to join only so that they could end up joining the tracker of their dreams. What kind of bull is that? :wacko:
lol, one of staff members there can barely write proper English. I have to reread his comments three to four times just to understand the gist of it.
Angry Little Fairy
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excellent i thing this is one of the best post
I agree 100% with the original thread
i read this post today but i was thinking the same thing since long
after all every thing is a trade which involves greed.
all invite sites are soft traders.
excellent i thing this is one of the best post
I agree 100% with the original thread
i read this post today but i was thinking the same thing since long
after all every thing is a trade which involves greed.
all invite sites are soft traders.
Heather Conley
New member
allowing trading to go on sends the wrong message. especially to those new to private trackers, who see trading going on and think it's appropriate (meanwhile they may be inadvertently compromising the bit torrent community by allowing the wrong element into trackers).
whether it is technically supporting trading or not is irrelevant, because it has the appearance of support. it is better to avoid impropriety, actual or perceived.
if a forum doesn't support trading, it should ban members for doing it. yes trading will still continue somewhere, somehow, just like all illicit activities, but treating it as an illicit activity will send the correct message, teach the uninformed, and reduce trading overall in the bit torrent community.
I don't disagree but I'm not in a position to effect those changes.Sorry if that sounds like a cop-out but it's the truth .As for any perceived hypocrisy of my continuing participation in a site that de facto supports trading all I can say is that I believe that I attempt to push the site in better direction .