last time i checked, discussions were way more "intellectual" here than on any invites forum where ass kissing and hypocritical congratulations seems to be the norm..
Are torrent invite communities really trading in disguise?
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Proud2BAMuslim
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Internet communities with more than 100,000 members are an accumulation of random people no matter what invite policy you have or how people were invited.
ill miss ariza
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Tracker's position is simple and clear "DO NOT OFFER INVITES IN PUBLIC". But none is offering, I'm just requesting and we are talking for a tracker with an invites offering subforum :frusty:. Last time I checked there was a special channel for staff to discuss their positions. And these so called invite communities should care more for their simple users position than how to be good with staff in order to join the ***** trackers.
As for what.cd I like their approach also but it is not the best thing to do if you care for security
I'm trying to. Allthough I don't go as far as reviews. IDK which site you visit, but most trackers' forums are the same here. No IMDB links, just a neame and a rating. Or as Idol pointed out even the release name (as in I watched it in HD, so I'm cool or something) and a rating. And yes, I do search the movies and 95%+ are from 2009 atm.
Well you'v'e got to have *some* compromise. What.CD *aims* to be large. They always knew they would have undesirables within their membership if they were to have a huge member base. It's inevitable. WhatMan was only speaking relatively, if I interpret correctly.
Where they have secured up the site, is where it counts. Where Alan Ellis failed (like putting his fricking name and address on OiNK's whois and who knows what else), what.cd staff excell. Last time I heard, A9 uses a different proxy address every single day. They should be doing that, they're a massive target.
Of course, this is if you mean security for the site itself. For the users, well that's up to them. They can use seedboxes and VPNs if they want, set profiles to tinfoil hat and use SSL and whatever else they want to protect themselves.
Without sounding like a lame suckeruperer, I agree with what.cd's approach in pretty much everything they do, it's the tracker that turned me from hating all private trackers (cos I couldn't fricking get into them) to having faith in their relevancy in the wider file sharing world.
vballchick14
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I'm sure you'll be able to come up with something... :whistling
PS: My 2000th post. I am ze geek.
PPS: I'm not as active here simply because I don't have time atm.
Lance Peeplamstrong
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I'm glad you said that and I completely agree. Some take their time to put a rating besides the release. It's almost always a 9/10 (you can't give it a 10, that'd be weird, lol).
hello..xxxxx
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i think u hate TTinvite. but i think TTinvite is great community and TTinvite not trade anything like account or invite.
and u know whatcd is forbidden in TTinvite. TTinvite follow tracker rules.
TTinvite never break any Tracker Rules.
lol
blunosepit
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seriously dood easy on the disclaimers.Its not TPS :lol:,feel free to articulate your position without fear of any nick/avatar combination just so long as you are within the board rules
.You being all over the place kinda makes me strain to get your main points lol.But upon that,I have to agree with you that what.cd is perhaps the only tracker where the terms safety and axx can be put together in the same sentence without sounding ambiguous.
One can literally move from texan style goat farming to what.cd membership without having known anybody in BT.I doubt whether there are any other quality trackers out there that can boast of this eminence.
If its for the good of the tracker,then whatever invite policy is in place then it shouldn't really be an issue(and that's basically what threw me off about polarbear's statement).
On another point,invite gives are dangerous but they sure aren't as precarious as trades are.I'd definitely charge higher premiums to a trader (supposed this was risk insurance) than someone offering invites to people he/she has scrutinized(at least to his/her ability) .
Also if you look at it beyond the surface,these crafts are guided by two completely divergent attitudes;One by selfishness and the other one by generosity making the former more dangerous(simpleton,right?).
That said,I think for no other reason other than security then its well within reason if staffers are unable to distinguish between trades and gives.
As to which one is more of a threat to BT between invite forums and sites like FST,i guess thats up for debate but if I was one of the anti-piracy folks I don't think I'd start hunting for invites to sites worth checking out on a forum like this but i'd rather TPS and the likes(the more secretive the better as thats how you get into the super secrets lol).
Why would I want to struggle creating a fake persona here that may eventually not materialize and yet I can have it easy by simply joining a site full of people who can't stand seeing an invite on their profile page and are just itching to get rid of it?
Places that credibility is evaluated by post count,user rank,rep points etc.I mean how easy can it be.When the feds(not these anti-piracy faggots) finally get tired of chasing after the scene and decide to come after P2P,that's when people will realise how bad these invite gathering sites really are.
As late as 04/05,the scene wasn't as secretive as it is today,there were sites that sceners actively participated in and some groups went to as far as recruiting from.But then the busts happened,something changed and the sites were no more.I don't know why its even up really but for anybody who cares,do check out
http://www.scenenews.com
for a practical experience on how things can quickly change.
FST has a reputation for harboring angry individuals but that's really not the case,if somebody makes a ridiculous invite request then for the sake of those that are to come after them,they have to be told why their request lacks credibility.Some refuse to listen hence the occasional 'shouting' perhaps in an effort to navigate past the ear wax in order to get to them.
Good requests at least from my time here eventually get fulfilled.
lol at the epic triple offtopic :lol:
JackReynolds
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And from where should that trust come?
I have seen countless posts on BG/UG power user forums, where a long standing and reputable member of the site has been disabled from what/waffles for inviting a cheater. Mind you, they were inviting users that were also power/elite on BG/UG. Some of these members, who have been using what/waffles since the beginning, were disabled for "trusting" the supposed "power users" of a forum. And once your disabled at one of those sites, there is really no alternative. Other music trackers simply can't match their content. When a old user is disabled like that, how do you fit "trust" into your mind?
I have seen countless posts on BG/UG power user forums, where a long standing and reputable member of the site has been disabled from what/waffles for inviting a cheater. Mind you, they were inviting users that were also power/elite on BG/UG. Some of these members, who have been using what/waffles since the beginning, were disabled for "trusting" the supposed "power users" of a forum. And once your disabled at one of those sites, there is really no alternative. Other music trackers simply can't match their content. When a old user is disabled like that, how do you fit "trust" into your mind?
What about the 'middle-man' service? In my eyes providing a service so that trades are carried out successfully shows support for trading in general.
I'm a big believer in telling it like it is .:happy:
lildeb1258
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suuuuuure...TTinvite never break any Tracker Rules.
I'd even go as far as to say that trackers love the fact it simply exists.
As rart hinted, such sites are hives of traders.
As an example, I remember being at TPS and at some random thread I said I was a member at FTN. During 2 weeks i kept getting random messages of people either a) begging (and i mean, begging) me to invite them or b) people hinting what i would want to get in return to trade that account. :O RAB...
This at a explicitly non trading forum.
jeja_uribe
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The same thing happened to me. I made it a point to give invites to friends with crappy connections and some decided to never use the place either.Doesn't bother me though because I told them that they were under no obligation.
That's the funny part you get some satisfaction from actually seeding things instead of just increasing someone else' s upload amount.
curious rose
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You're really caught up with Invite forums aren't you
I never understood the criticism against trading, so I'm gonna go and give you the benefit of the doubt without even reading what you wrote.
I never understood the criticism against trading, so I'm gonna go and give you the benefit of the doubt without even reading what you wrote.
Trust comes from your instinct for sure
When you invited someone you can always get disabled or even bring a bad apple in a site you really enjoy. Even if he is a real life friend or your brother (there are a few topics around).
The same can happen to staff there are a few rumors today
Don't forget we are talking about a hobby.
When you invited someone you can always get disabled or even bring a bad apple in a site you really enjoy. Even if he is a real life friend or your brother (there are a few topics around
). The same can happen to staff there are a few rumors today
Don't forget we are talking about a hobby.
califrniateach
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It's interesting to see just how many sites one individual has become a member on. Considering that I only have 5mbits down and 1mbit up on my connection, it's easy to saturate my up bandwidth with torrents from one site -how could I possibly be a valuable contributor on multiple sites?
There is, however, the benefit of bringing new content from one site over to your own.
So, here I am wondering what these multi-site members are looking for:
1. The best layout/speed/content/stability/privacy and that's why they look for greener pastures at so many different sites?
2. Access to multiple sites to always have the best quality and newest content available when they want it?
3. Bring members from other sites over to your own preferred one to bolster it up?
4. Collect elite membership "trophies" as mentioned earlier in the thread.
Considering a sense of community and contribution, I am hard-pressed to see why sites would want members who are active on many other sites, and thus I see why invite-trading is so discouraged (not to say that give-aways don't go to people who are already members of many sites).
*and I do realize that not all sites cover the same type of content, but I still see plenty of overlap.
It's a tough battle, this invite business.
There is, however, the benefit of bringing new content from one site over to your own.
So, here I am wondering what these multi-site members are looking for:
1. The best layout/speed/content/stability/privacy and that's why they look for greener pastures at so many different sites?
2. Access to multiple sites to always have the best quality and newest content available when they want it?
3. Bring members from other sites over to your own preferred one to bolster it up?
4. Collect elite membership "trophies" as mentioned earlier in the thread.
Considering a sense of community and contribution, I am hard-pressed to see why sites would want members who are active on many other sites, and thus I see why invite-trading is so discouraged (not to say that give-aways don't go to people who are already members of many sites).
*and I do realize that not all sites cover the same type of content, but I still see plenty of overlap.
It's a tough battle, this invite business.