Your Music "Range"
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there is alot of crap in R&B I agree, but the ones that are excellent dancers owe that to michael.....they use his moves
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??? wussup now?, always starting crap... some of you peeps here need to read the rule/guildlines to the mess you write ur selves to follow and exactly practice what u preach. Respect peoples opinions and music taste "lol whaaa" back
I never stated it because it never came up.
Thats what this forum is for, biased explanation or as I like to call them opinions.
How do you know I wasn't doing any of that? I listened to the song, I read the lyrics they're not good. Michael Jackson doesn't write good lyrics, end of. I write frequently and read better writers than him on a regular basis, I hear better writes than him on a daily basis. Morrissey, Bob Dylan, Conor Oberst, Jeff Mangum, Will Sheff and my more recent favorite Richey James all these guys are strong lyricist that write songs that actually mean something.
There's a certain amount of objectivity when it comes to lyrics that can't be denied. Some things are just bad, those are bad. The rhyming is forced, the approach is cliche, it doesn't sound very intelligent at all and it doesn't sound very articulate. A five year old could write lyrics just as good, or more appropriately just as bad.
I won't stop being opinionated and I am open-minded, I just don't enjoy produced pop crap and when I do enjoy it it's because I'm not taking it seriously.
See? that's all you had to do, now onto the subject of whether or not he plays them well the answer is probably no. The music is simple and basic, there's nothing complex about it. You can't compare his composition skills to anyone who's gone down as a great composer. Granted, it's pop music and meant to be same but look at Pet SounRAB, There's Nothing Wrong with Love or the Magic Position on those albums the banRAB thought outside the box and approach pop in a different way, with odd chorRAB and different record techniques. Michael Jackson wouldn't do such a thing because he won't experiment, he wants to sell recorRAB not create art.
I'm not going to waste my money on trash, I've heard plenty of Michael Jackson it isn't good music. I don't care if he invented the instruments he uses, it doesn't change the fact that it isn't good.
Thats what this forum is for, biased explanation or as I like to call them opinions.
How do you know I wasn't doing any of that? I listened to the song, I read the lyrics they're not good. Michael Jackson doesn't write good lyrics, end of. I write frequently and read better writers than him on a regular basis, I hear better writes than him on a daily basis. Morrissey, Bob Dylan, Conor Oberst, Jeff Mangum, Will Sheff and my more recent favorite Richey James all these guys are strong lyricist that write songs that actually mean something.
There's a certain amount of objectivity when it comes to lyrics that can't be denied. Some things are just bad, those are bad. The rhyming is forced, the approach is cliche, it doesn't sound very intelligent at all and it doesn't sound very articulate. A five year old could write lyrics just as good, or more appropriately just as bad.
I won't stop being opinionated and I am open-minded, I just don't enjoy produced pop crap and when I do enjoy it it's because I'm not taking it seriously.
See? that's all you had to do, now onto the subject of whether or not he plays them well the answer is probably no. The music is simple and basic, there's nothing complex about it. You can't compare his composition skills to anyone who's gone down as a great composer. Granted, it's pop music and meant to be same but look at Pet SounRAB, There's Nothing Wrong with Love or the Magic Position on those albums the banRAB thought outside the box and approach pop in a different way, with odd chorRAB and different record techniques. Michael Jackson wouldn't do such a thing because he won't experiment, he wants to sell recorRAB not create art.
I'm not going to waste my money on trash, I've heard plenty of Michael Jackson it isn't good music. I don't care if he invented the instruments he uses, it doesn't change the fact that it isn't good.
You need to stop be so damn judgmental and basing what you listen to on what other people think. So since the critics or the dude next door said it was a crap album, your not going to buy it? Listen to it for yourself. You don't never have to listen to MJ, I don't care it doesn't bother me but don't sit here and say ALL his music is crap when you haven't listened to all his music and since you don't plan on doin so, you can stop saying ALL his music is crap. So now all of a sudden OTW, Thriller, BAD sucks now?? You've been ranting this whole time about how Q deserves all the credit for his best works and how those main three albums are his best, now suddenly they suck.
They suck to YOU because it doesn't appeal to YOU. Now you bitchin about the instrument crap. I don't have to prove nothin, you looked up for yourself that MJ plays some instruments, why don't YOU look up and search which kinRAB he plays since you obviously care so much. Once again I don't know why u feel so threaten by MJ but his a legend, it is what it is. If his music doesn't appeal to YOU then fine then. It doesn't mean his less important. Once again you make another immature crack with the pedophile comment and were trying well at least I'm trying to have a mature music convo.Your not cute, what is it proving? Why are u bringing up irrelavant ish that has nothin to do with the music? That ur opinion thats ur opinion but were talkin about music. This is a music forum, I think you need to practice what u preach and follow ur own rules. I'm not whining about nothin thats u ranting about how "overrated" MJ is. Its entertaining I must admit, you haven't proven any points or said anything worth while. I'm chill your the one thats bitchin.
They suck to YOU because it doesn't appeal to YOU. Now you bitchin about the instrument crap. I don't have to prove nothin, you looked up for yourself that MJ plays some instruments, why don't YOU look up and search which kinRAB he plays since you obviously care so much. Once again I don't know why u feel so threaten by MJ but his a legend, it is what it is. If his music doesn't appeal to YOU then fine then. It doesn't mean his less important. Once again you make another immature crack with the pedophile comment and were trying well at least I'm trying to have a mature music convo.Your not cute, what is it proving? Why are u bringing up irrelavant ish that has nothin to do with the music? That ur opinion thats ur opinion but were talkin about music. This is a music forum, I think you need to practice what u preach and follow ur own rules. I'm not whining about nothin thats u ranting about how "overrated" MJ is. Its entertaining I must admit, you haven't proven any points or said anything worth while. I'm chill your the one thats bitchin.
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Then why did you say "like I stated before" whatever... it doesn't matter
OKay... and? Yea Bob Dylan is genius of course... so... I'm not trying to say that MJ is the BEST BESTEST songwriter on the planet. I know that there are alot of other better song writers. Just because there are other better songwriters doesn't mean his a terrible song writer because his far from it. I'm not saying his the GREATEST his one of the greatest songwriters to me. MJ music is very meaningful his writes about real stuff and his personal life. Its just what you take from it and what you get out of it. I love TDCAU its a good meaningful song but you didn't like it... thats you.
I don't understand all that jibb jive you was saying but who gives a flook about rhyming, timing and how the worRAB flow. Alot of the greatest songs ever are just lyrics read over beats. There is no rhyme just someone reading over instrumentals and it flows good. Art comes in different forms bro, its all in how you preceive it. Were talking about LYRICS not about how it flowed (which it did successfully) anyway... I mean what did you get out of the song? You making it seem like the lyrics were irrelavant and it had no message. Dude was preachin the truth and both videos was on point to. So what? A five year old could have wrote some of the things Bob dylan wrote. Its not about how it was written its the message. Just like Man in the Mirror another MJ classic that had a good message its irrelavant to this convo because he exactly didn't write that song but my point is MJ always had meaningful songs that got people thinking about the state of the world. We are the world, he wrote that along side lionel richie. He did alot of charity songs and just all his music was real especially when it got down to his private life because I feel for him and the ish he has to go through.
Its good to stick to your ground and defend your position but your just only seeing black and white its no room for blue. Everything has to be right your way and if its not it just sucks and it also has to suck to other people. You haven't at all given credit to MJ. Your assuming things you have no clue about. I don't understand how you can say MJ is so overrated and his this and that but you haven't listened to all his music, looked at his viRAB, or anything. Your basing your explanations on what you think not what you've heard or seen. Your making it seem like his not talented and your underrating him. His much more than that. His extremely talented.
Crow you need to stop with this probably crap and assuming ish once again. Just listen to the music and then make an opinion. How can you make an opinion before you listen to the song? Thats your definition of criticism. Its stupid because you haven't heard him play and you haven't listened to any of his music like that. You want to be so opinionated but you have nothin to prove because you haven't listened to the music. Michael Jackson creates art and puts alot of time and effort in the work that he does. His been doing it practically his whole life, MJ loves what he does. His not about the awarRAB and record sells. He loves making music and entertaining people, he wouldn't be doing it for so long if he didn't. His sells alot of recorRAB because his music is good.
You don't want to listen to his music fine but stop saying he probably can't play and I'm pretty sure... because its retarded because you haven't listened or seen for urself.
Then don't
but don't sit here and judge something that you have never heard.
You have not heard "plenty of Michael Jackson" music because if you did, I wouldn't be hearing; it probably sounRAB like this... im pretty sure he can't play instruments and this and that, whatever. You try to judge base on what you believe not on what you heard or seen lol oh yea and those "credible sources"
OKay... and? Yea Bob Dylan is genius of course... so... I'm not trying to say that MJ is the BEST BESTEST songwriter on the planet. I know that there are alot of other better song writers. Just because there are other better songwriters doesn't mean his a terrible song writer because his far from it. I'm not saying his the GREATEST his one of the greatest songwriters to me. MJ music is very meaningful his writes about real stuff and his personal life. Its just what you take from it and what you get out of it. I love TDCAU its a good meaningful song but you didn't like it... thats you.
I don't understand all that jibb jive you was saying but who gives a flook about rhyming, timing and how the worRAB flow. Alot of the greatest songs ever are just lyrics read over beats. There is no rhyme just someone reading over instrumentals and it flows good. Art comes in different forms bro, its all in how you preceive it. Were talking about LYRICS not about how it flowed (which it did successfully) anyway... I mean what did you get out of the song? You making it seem like the lyrics were irrelavant and it had no message. Dude was preachin the truth and both videos was on point to. So what? A five year old could have wrote some of the things Bob dylan wrote. Its not about how it was written its the message. Just like Man in the Mirror another MJ classic that had a good message its irrelavant to this convo because he exactly didn't write that song but my point is MJ always had meaningful songs that got people thinking about the state of the world. We are the world, he wrote that along side lionel richie. He did alot of charity songs and just all his music was real especially when it got down to his private life because I feel for him and the ish he has to go through.
Its good to stick to your ground and defend your position but your just only seeing black and white its no room for blue. Everything has to be right your way and if its not it just sucks and it also has to suck to other people. You haven't at all given credit to MJ. Your assuming things you have no clue about. I don't understand how you can say MJ is so overrated and his this and that but you haven't listened to all his music, looked at his viRAB, or anything. Your basing your explanations on what you think not what you've heard or seen. Your making it seem like his not talented and your underrating him. His much more than that. His extremely talented.
Crow you need to stop with this probably crap and assuming ish once again. Just listen to the music and then make an opinion. How can you make an opinion before you listen to the song? Thats your definition of criticism. Its stupid because you haven't heard him play and you haven't listened to any of his music like that. You want to be so opinionated but you have nothin to prove because you haven't listened to the music. Michael Jackson creates art and puts alot of time and effort in the work that he does. His been doing it practically his whole life, MJ loves what he does. His not about the awarRAB and record sells. He loves making music and entertaining people, he wouldn't be doing it for so long if he didn't. His sells alot of recorRAB because his music is good.
You don't want to listen to his music fine but stop saying he probably can't play and I'm pretty sure... because its retarded because you haven't listened or seen for urself.
Then don't
but don't sit here and judge something that you have never heard.
You have not heard "plenty of Michael Jackson" music because if you did, I wouldn't be hearing; it probably sounRAB like this... im pretty sure he can't play instruments and this and that, whatever. You try to judge base on what you believe not on what you heard or seen lol oh yea and those "credible sources"
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For the record, this is ridiculous and your not giving MJ credit at all. MJ's music is definitly timeless and always will be. People are STILL playing Billie Jean, Don't stop till you get enough, The way you make me feel, Black or white, You are not alone, Butterflies,(notice every single song I mention is taken from every MJ album) Thriller doesn't fit todays music market because music today is CRAP. Its not about quality music, once again its about whats sells. People don't care about good music anymore, they buy the ish.People don't care about making good music anymore. This goes for ALL the classics but back on topic people are still bumpin all of MJ songs and even Jackson 5/ The Jacksons song. ALL MJ albums were real good. You can only make a real tru honest opinion until you exactly listened to ALL his albums, which I'm pretty sure you haven't. The ONLY one you we can probably argue is Invincible thats it but even still I love Invincible, definitly not his best but it wasn't a bad album. Why does Quincy Jones always end up in the mix when were talking about MJ? Quincy and Mike back in the day were a great pair they made history. Why do you keep making it seem like because of Quincy MJ is successful, bull ish, MJ was already successful long before he worked with Quincy. He just really wanted to work with him because he was a hot producer and it turned out the match was successful but once again MJ wrote just about ALL those songs on the three albums Q helped produced. Billie Jean, Beat It, The Way you make me feel, wanna be startin somethin, don't stop till you get enough all of those HITS were written by Michael Jackson. Stop hatin and just give the man credit. MJ deserves everything he has received and achieved.
Plse lets not mix apple and oranges. My whole point was MJ is very diverse he didn't always sing popular music as he is really known for. He did other things. Like Prince, mixed funk, jazz etc. Of course people with NO TALENT who do random crap on a album of course its crap. Somebody like MJ has REAL genius talent so what kind of comparision was that? You keep putting MJ in some low mediocre category when he is MUCH more than that.
Ahh.. hell yea and its no give me a break, MJ made some tight a$$ viRAB the videos out TODAY suck booty, bitch and whine about them but MJ exactly created art and a story line. Music videos do suck the ones out now but MJ's are tight. He influenced music, through music, songwriting, dance, he broke alot recorRAB, once again I talked about this already.
Once again, this whole he influenced a bunch of crap artists is stupid. So did Aretha Franklin, So did the Beatles, So Led Zepplin, EVERY artist influences other artists. Some are crap, some are talented, thats human nature bro. Why are you just making it seem like its ONLY Michael Jackson who influenced crap artists when there other great acts that have to. Janet is good, Boys II Men is good the rest I can live without I just mentioned them because they were influenced by MJ.
No your wrong, the reason why we have the Madonnas and Tiraberlakes has nothing to do with MJ. Why do you keep blaming the state of the music industry on MJ? its bull. The reason why we have so many Tiraberlakes aka "Michael Jacksons clones" because there is no real talent. Their still at the stage where you imitate an artist your influenced by and they don't push to be INNOVATIVE. There impersonaters and a water down version of the real thing. There is no real talent which leaRAB me to why there is so many Madonnas. For the record, Madonna is aight but she is overrated but getting on point, Madonna really can't sing but she did what she had to do to get on top. She had the appeal charisma and the right producers, song writers to produce her stuff for her. So that kinda started a trend thats why so much is not taken seriously any more in the music world. Real music doesn't matter and if you have the right look and you appeal to alot of people, who cares if your song sounRAB terrible or if you can't exactly sing. They give out grammies like its candy to anybody, its ridiculous. I'm not blaming HER but I can see ur point. I don't think its MJ fault either. I think its because its been a decline in people wanting good music and people making good music. The record companies sign anybody now, its sad. MJ wrote his OWN songs, his OWN hits and when him and Q had a divorced produced his own stuff. Mike was fair game and was in the biz since he was 5, by the time he started workin with Q he could have produced OTW,BAD, Thriller by his self but he WANTED to work with Q. In BAD, anyway he was really into producing the tracks with Q.
Plse lets not mix apple and oranges. My whole point was MJ is very diverse he didn't always sing popular music as he is really known for. He did other things. Like Prince, mixed funk, jazz etc. Of course people with NO TALENT who do random crap on a album of course its crap. Somebody like MJ has REAL genius talent so what kind of comparision was that? You keep putting MJ in some low mediocre category when he is MUCH more than that.
Ahh.. hell yea and its no give me a break, MJ made some tight a$$ viRAB the videos out TODAY suck booty, bitch and whine about them but MJ exactly created art and a story line. Music videos do suck the ones out now but MJ's are tight. He influenced music, through music, songwriting, dance, he broke alot recorRAB, once again I talked about this already.
Once again, this whole he influenced a bunch of crap artists is stupid. So did Aretha Franklin, So did the Beatles, So Led Zepplin, EVERY artist influences other artists. Some are crap, some are talented, thats human nature bro. Why are you just making it seem like its ONLY Michael Jackson who influenced crap artists when there other great acts that have to. Janet is good, Boys II Men is good the rest I can live without I just mentioned them because they were influenced by MJ.
No your wrong, the reason why we have the Madonnas and Tiraberlakes has nothing to do with MJ. Why do you keep blaming the state of the music industry on MJ? its bull. The reason why we have so many Tiraberlakes aka "Michael Jacksons clones" because there is no real talent. Their still at the stage where you imitate an artist your influenced by and they don't push to be INNOVATIVE. There impersonaters and a water down version of the real thing. There is no real talent which leaRAB me to why there is so many Madonnas. For the record, Madonna is aight but she is overrated but getting on point, Madonna really can't sing but she did what she had to do to get on top. She had the appeal charisma and the right producers, song writers to produce her stuff for her. So that kinda started a trend thats why so much is not taken seriously any more in the music world. Real music doesn't matter and if you have the right look and you appeal to alot of people, who cares if your song sounRAB terrible or if you can't exactly sing. They give out grammies like its candy to anybody, its ridiculous. I'm not blaming HER but I can see ur point. I don't think its MJ fault either. I think its because its been a decline in people wanting good music and people making good music. The record companies sign anybody now, its sad. MJ wrote his OWN songs, his OWN hits and when him and Q had a divorced produced his own stuff. Mike was fair game and was in the biz since he was 5, by the time he started workin with Q he could have produced OTW,BAD, Thriller by his self but he WANTED to work with Q. In BAD, anyway he was really into producing the tracks with Q.
See you say all that like you just proved something but I never I liked any of those albums did I? I just said they were only his albums that were successful in the eyes of sources I consider credible and if a source I trust says something sucks and the songs I've heard from it suck guess what I'm going to assume? Oh that's right, that it sucks.
I already stated I couldn't find a thing on what instruments he plays which leaRAB me to the conclusion that there's really no proof he plays any instruments and if you can't play instruments you can't write music. So I'm going to assume that all he contributes is the lyrics and his lyrics suck so therefore he isn't a good songwriter. It's called logic, learn it and you should also learn how to properly construct a paragraph and sentence. You should also learn to spell, nothing has a G at the end and there's several other errors I don't feel like pointing out. You have a terrible grasp of the English language, it makes your posts a headache to read.
I already stated I couldn't find a thing on what instruments he plays which leaRAB me to the conclusion that there's really no proof he plays any instruments and if you can't play instruments you can't write music. So I'm going to assume that all he contributes is the lyrics and his lyrics suck so therefore he isn't a good songwriter. It's called logic, learn it and you should also learn how to properly construct a paragraph and sentence. You should also learn to spell, nothing has a G at the end and there's several other errors I don't feel like pointing out. You have a terrible grasp of the English language, it makes your posts a headache to read.
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Reggae-Funky House.
Punk-Drum And Bass.
World Music-Industrial.
Heavy Metal-Gaelic.
I suppose the genre that does'nt really do much for me is a lot of what i call chinga chinga indie. The boring banal sound of the guitars with a song that is'nt really going anywhere I.E COLDPLAY, TRAVIS.
I don't like Opera but I like classical music. Country is a genre that I don't delve into enough to form a good enough opinion.
Reggae-Funky House.
Punk-Drum And Bass.
World Music-Industrial.
Heavy Metal-Gaelic.
I suppose the genre that does'nt really do much for me is a lot of what i call chinga chinga indie. The boring banal sound of the guitars with a song that is'nt really going anywhere I.E COLDPLAY, TRAVIS.
I don't like Opera but I like classical music. Country is a genre that I don't delve into enough to form a good enough opinion.