who doesn't really like the Saw films?

I enjoyed the first one, very tense and original story. The gore was extreme but not gratuitous, which I've found it is has been in the sequels.

For example, in the latest film, a certain trap is used which was used in a previous Saw film - but this time they decide to show it in all it's horrible detail. I didn't think it was necessary.
 
Likewise.

I watched the first one and felt shaken for quite a few days after - and I like horror. But outright torture porn for the sake of shock value alone? Not for me at all.
 
It's. A. Film.:rolleyes:

I.e. It's not real. If it was real than i could understand people being disturbed by the OTT gore, but it's all fake for christs sake! That's not really a person chopping their foot off, it's all make up.

God help any of you if you accidentally watched a truly disturbing film like 'Martyrs', which isn't just gore, but actually disturbing in it's own right.
 
I have watched a couple and not keen, there is just no real explanation on how all this work is carried out by a frail ugly little man.:confused:
 
Lol, you clearly weren't paying much attention to what you were watching then. He has apprentices that do most of the dirty work for him. This is explained in pretty much all the sequels...
 
4/10 for me plot is stupid and dragging on for 7 films I think 3 would been enough.

I also find it weird theirs someone out there who sat there wrote it all who thinks about all these sick and twisted things.
 
I thought the first one was brilliant, I'm not really into all the gore but I liked the story, loved the twist at the end!
It's been spoilt and cheapened though by the shamless franchise thats been created. How many has their been now? 5,6??? It's just stupid!
 
haa haa yes they tell you he has his little entourage but thats it.

Well that is a very easy way to tie up all the loose enRAB.

There is very little explanation on how he gets these people into these contraptions in the first place and why they are the chosen ones. Yes some are morally bad but hey is that it?

There is very little underlying substance to the finished plot.
 
I'd never seen any of them until the other night. I went to the cinema with some frienRAB to see the latest one, and although it was better than I thought it would be I can't see how it can be dragged on any more. It's the sort of film you can only make so many sequels to before it becomes tedious and comical. Same with Final Destination.
 
I loved the first film but my attention span waned by about Saw 3. I guess they're a bit like a soap opera , not really a franchise you can just dip in and out of,
 
I actually agree.

The first movie is certainly believable enough and the second one even features twists which explain how they all got there -
Obi abducting for money and Amanda working with Jigsaw
.

The third movie,with it's more extravagant traps,is more gimmicky and harder to believe,but it' still perhaps believable enough.The problem is that it's obvious somebody else is helping him,so it required a sequel! That's when it got really far fetched with extremely complex traps for a dying master engineer and his few helpers to construct.Then there is no explanation for how one helper managed to successfully set up so many multi victim games.
 
Seriously, what are you on about? I'm not actually that big a fan of some of the Saw sequels, but it explains it very clearly how Jigsaw was able to do all these things, and also WHY he did it.

I'm going to put all this in spoilers because it will spoil most of the movies for people (including Saw 3D):

In the first film he's not that weak having only just been diagnosed with Cancer, hence why he can capture his first few victims, his victims (or "the chosen ones" as you put it) are people who dont value the life they have been given (drug abusers, people who have already been given a second chance but are still messing it up, etc...).

He picks Amanda as his next victim because she was drug abuser, so Jigsaw captured her and put her through a test, which she survives. Then in a twisted sort of way, she feels indebted towarRAB Jigsaw for helping her realise the error of her ways and starts to help him.

This is how he recruited his other apprentices like Detective Hoffman (in Saw 4, he also set some of the traps in Saw 3 in motion) and in Saw 3D we find out that Jigsaw recruited Dr Gordon by helping to save him after he'd chopped off his foot. It's not very believable, but it definitely explains it clearly.

And at the end of Saw 3D we see that Dr Gordon also has at least two other people in pig masks that help him capture Hoffman, so presumably Jigsaw had a fair few followers who helped him.
 
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