Where can I get chicken fat?

"spamtrap1888" wrote in message
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On Feb 10, 6:58 am, ImStillMags wrote:

Vets sell Science Diet which is generally crap.

Yeah. None of my pets would ever eat that brand. My vet sells quite a few
brands.
 
On Feb 10, 3:07?am, "Julie Bove" wrote:


Have you taken the cat to the vet? Seriously.....this sounds like
something a Vet should be advising you about.
There are special foods available at the Vets office for cats with
renal problems. You really should have her checked out.
 
"Steve Pope" wrote in message
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I could be wrong but I think he mostly ignores it. Just takes the med when
things are bad. He won't willingly follow a diet, but... He doesn't cook
or serve himself when he is home so he eats what I give him.
 
"Cam" wrote in message
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On Feb 10, 2:49 am, "Julie Bove" wrote:

Are you squeamish?

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Yes.
 
Steve Pope wrote:


Instead of worrying about purines, have you tried just reducing your
sugar intake? Fructose (whether from sucrose, HFCS, honey, or fruit
juice, doesn't matter) metabolism occurs in the liver, and converts
large amounts of ATP into uric acid. (this also raises blood pressure)

-Bob
 
"Janet" wrote



Fine in cooked form, in raw form contains a substance that prevents biotin
(vitimin b) absorbtion leading to coat problems. In larger amouts, can
actually be a worse problem. No more than one a week if you really want to
do it. On the mainstream vet sites, they are normally listed specifically
as a 'do not' along with grapes. It's become a bit of a fad to use them
with raw feeders because it's easier (less time consuming) than managing all
that raw meat. Google will show various views, some opposing from those who
like the fad (but many of them too warn about how many a week is
acceptable). Cats on the other hand, don't always react the same way to
foods though a search on them and eggs shows the same info mostly, it seems
a lower incidence of problems with salmonella coming more to the forefront
than the biotin issue. IE: might not be wise for a sick kitty with a
compromised system? Just like with dogs, cooking (even to soft still runny)
makes it ok.

Your view may be different but I'm sticking with my vet who says 'nope, not
that food raw, scrambled is fine though!'. He's a proponant of raw feeding
for dogs if the owner is willing to take the time to do it right, and it
does take more time. (For others not familiar with this, it's not like you
just toss them some ground beef).
 
zxcvbob wrote:



Yes, definitely a gout diet should be a low-fructose diet.
That I have been able to determine, fructose, alcohol and purines
are the three things absolutely proven to raise serum uric acid levels.

Steve
 
On 2011-02-10, Dora wrote:


Sounds really intriguing, Dora. I'm not a fan of lengthwise sliced
bananas in my pies, preferring sliced, but I definitely like the jam
thing. I've never heard of that. Wow! So many possibilities.

Thnx!!
nb
 
Janet wrote:

You need to find a better reference.
1) Cats do create amylase in their pancreas and small intestines.
2) Starch can be hydrolized without amylase by the stomach acid

Starchy foods do not make good catfood for a healthy cat, because the
starch is just "empty" calories. But we are not talking about a
healthy cat here, we are talking about a cat that needs the extra
calories, and reduced protein to take some stress off its kidneys.

(I would probably feed the cat boiled hamburger meat and white rice,
sprinkled with a little tunafish juice if she won't eat it plain)

-Bob
 
"Cheryl" wrote in message
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Oh. Okay. I know my parents gave our dogs chicken leg bones, but they also
did a lot of things wrong with pets. I was horrified to read a book about
rabbits that my daughter brought home in the 2nd grade. It was no wonder
our poor rabbit had so many problems. We seemingly did everything wrong
with her! I didn't know any better. I was just a kid.
 
Ophelia wrote:


I measure the amount of fat that I have (usually about 1 kg) and I
look up the amount of water and lye that I need using an online
calculator. I used to refer to this one:
http://www.thesage.com/calcs/lyecalc2.php

but it doesn't have chicken fat, and I found one that does:
http://www.soapcalc.net/calc/SoapCalcWP.asp

I put all the fats and oils in an old crockpot. Dissolve the lye in
the water (that is the only dangerous step; you really should wear
goggles or a face shield when dissolving the lye) and I pour it over
the fat. Then blend it up with a stick blender and cook on LOW until
it's a greasy-looking gel and smells like soap. Spoon into
waxed-paper-lined molds and let it cool. Slice into bars. It's ready
to use right away, but the bars get harder and milder and more sudsy
if I let them age for a couple of weeks. (that either means I'm using
too much water, or that I'm not cooking it quite long enough.)

The lye will etch the glaze off of the crockpot, so don't use good
stoneware for this. You could also use a big stainless steel saucepan
and cook it *very* gently on the stove, or blenderize it until it kind
of looks like lotion and then put it in a low oven to finish reacting.

-Bob
 
"ImStillMags" wrote in message
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On Feb 10, 3:07 am, "Julie Bove" wrote:


Have you taken the cat to the vet? Seriously.....this sounds like
something a Vet should be advising you about.
There are special foods available at the Vets office for cats with
renal problems. You really should have her checked out.

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Yes. The vet did advise me. She doesn't eat the presciption foods. I am
just trying to get some food in her.
 
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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That's what I am trying. This morning she had a bite of maple flavored
oatmeal. She loves maple. But I don't think that would go well with her
food. She also loves chicken and especially gravy.
 
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