What.cd is spying on Filesharingtalk

Tv Controls you said:
I would be stupid not to believe that there is alot of people using bittorrent to make gains, just take PTP for example...
If you read anything on this thread you would realize I don't "tow the line" as I openly speak up against the css attack..

This is how sites get shut down, idiots like you going out and selling dvd's then getting caught.
Being the idiot you are you rat out a private tracker, and then they are focusing on the private tracker.

If your just trying to justify your own situation for attempting to make money off Bt with your sorry ass blog, and selling some bootlegs.. I really feel sorry for you.
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Well considering your logic for no selling shit is weak and is the same crap every tracker comes up with, it's really hard for someone such as myself not to think you just tow the line. Being anti the css pirvacy invasion isn't enough to think any different.

Sites don't get shut down just because one person sells dvds and gets caught and tells them which tracker they downloaded them from. Guess what that isn't what happened to UK-T. :O Shock shock horror! To be honest I would be very surprised if they even ask with tracker once you said a torrent site. You seem to be living in denial thinking that every torrent site isn't already known and tagged and sites like this aren't followed by members of Copyright Agencies such as FACT.

Next you're gonna say I am just trying to justify my selling FSC accounts/invites! :D hehe. I like how you know you have a weak ass angle and are trying to deflect on to me, this doesn't change your weak ass angle.
 
That1Guy said:
I bet you are right. Doesnt really bother me then. But I can see how it may upset some people.
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No staffer is going to disable someone just for visiting a thread in a forum ... for all they know you're a trader hunter yourself. They're using it as an indication for further checks. Standard procedure really. It's the weight of evidence that convicts.
 
I've been banned on trackers before based on a nickname match. Granted sometimes the odds do seem too low to warrant anymore research, however, I'm just throwing out there the fact that sometimes staff do not "weigh" all the evidence possible, at least not all the time.
 
Tv Controls you said:
It is very unlikely that he will, because it is a shady area that is rarely acted on.
Although, It could be classified as extortion if pedomax wanted to take it that far.
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Ok, I am gonna bit, how can it be classified as extortion?

I assume you're referring to joke saying that they should try bribing. Since this joke was made after the fact, I hardly think it classes as blackmail. Asking for money to do something someone else wants you to do is a common thing and is widely accepted.
 
I understand the exploit completley.

Here is what they are basically exploiting.
visitedunvisited.png


which is why this is helpful at deterring such invasions of privacy on firefox.

a:visited{
background: none !important;
background-image: none !important;
list-style-image: none !important;
}
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We are stopping the link from being detected as visited or even looking like a link as we now made it have no background, list-style, or background image.
Their is no change in appearance which passes right by the css exploit.

All links look like this (before and after clicking) using the css style sheet above:
website

...So really stop trying to discredit me by acting as if I don't know the limitations of the css leak.
If I click a link to a myspace or facebook the link can be viewed by the website that is abusing the css leak, that is of course if myspace.com and facebook.com are in the list of sites being used by the attacker.
The will know I have a facebook, myspace, and I use the Bank of america for my banking.
 
That's surprising. Even I installed this css script to prevent them from seeing my browsing. I think it's a real shitty thing that they're doing this. And eventhough I have nothing to hide, it's the fact that they're taking such measure just to catch a trader or cheater. Some people take this whole BT thing entirely too seriously.

ca_aok said:
Trader :whistling

But seriously, if you hadn't noticed by now that description fits several staff members, so I'd probably wager they're warming up your global ban as we speak :lol:
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Yeah. And the funny thing is, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if one of the numerous questionable staffers throughout the bt community were to try and initiate a "global" ban for such a stupid reason. :rolleyes:
 
it's really hard for someone such as myself not to think you just tow the line.
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I'm banned from waffles.fm and what.cd, take that for towing the line... lol

Also... I don't ever remember referring to uk-t once.
 
It is kinda scary because like someone else said, viewing trade threads dont mean you trade. That being said, I have viewed a bunch of trade threads and I havent been banned at what.cd (thankfully).

What is one of the few trackers it would really suck to lose (for me at least).
 
Tv Controls you said:
I'm sure you would have a problem if the IIPA or Warner was looking at your css links, Mr. double standards.
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No more of a problem then I have with them monitoring BT swarms. It's within their power to do, and while I think their companies are full of corrupt businessmen it's up to you to protect yourself. Just like it's up to you to properly set privacy settings on a site like Facebook or Myspace. The internet really isn't that private of a place, so if you're doing something wrong and you aren't protecting yourself, you'll have to be prepared to deal with the consequences. As most of us here are probably pretty hardcore filesharers, we should be aware that in the distant future, there could be consequences based on the choices we made and the monitoring techniques they're using.

Anyway we're discussing torrent sites monitoring trade PMs and you're exaggerating it and comparing it to corporations suing people which has real life legal and monetary consequences. They aren't exactly the same thing.
 
The Exploit for the sounds bit strange, doesn't it? As well as for the baning purpose :p Like we use evil instrument to destruct evil... I bet sometimes people use the internet for non-torrenting related private stuff. Probably sometimes they realy want to keep it private. It's nothing about paranoia, it's just about the confidence and a bad feeling that someone raped you with sploit.
Also looks like i know where is my bitme invites gone now. I've never need any of them but I still didn't learn how to predict the future properly using neuronets or whatever.
Also life sucks.
 
Wasn't really meant to attack either What or FST, more the stupidity of the double standard that when someone's invading your privacy by using their staff powers to read PMs (whatever the purpose), it's ok since it's benefiting you rather than getting you banned.

If you're going to knowingly break the rules, might as well step up rather than crying about their methods to catch you in the act.

That1Guy said:
It is kinda scary because like someone else said, viewing trade threads dont mean you trade. That being said, I have viewed a bunch of trade threads and I havent been banned at what.cd (thankfully).

What is one of the few trackers it would really suck to lose (for me at least).
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I'm fairly certain they'd cross-reference it with other evidence like IP switches, or the CSS hits on the PM trade links, etc.
 
Anyway we're discussing torrent sites monitoring trade PMs and you're exaggerating it and comparing it to corporations suing people which has real life legal and monetary consequences. They aren't exactly the same thing.
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Neither is Fst and what.cd

*going to bed, got to be up early tomorrow. :sleep1:
 
Wasn't really meant to attack either What or FST, more the stupidity of the double standard that when someone's invading your privacy by using their staff powers to read PMs (whatever the purpose), it's ok since it's benefiting you rather than getting you banned.
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I don't really see the stupidity in the whole "double standard" you speak of.

Of course people will act negatively when their privacy is breached against their will, ultimately resulting in trouble/losses..
I'm not sure about anyone else around here :shifty:, but this seems like a very uncomplex idea to understand?

People react positively when benefiting, where as they act negatively when being harmed.

Personally I hate invasion of privacy, even if you insist it's helping me... The most important thing to me is my privacy.
You keep your benefits, and I'll keep my no-script and anti-css leak script running....:P
 
AbyBeats said:
Also by the looks of it caook and ringhunter wont even mind if their bank accounts get stolen or if their personal info is made public
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Accusations?:blink: and Spelled your name correctly this time.:unsure:

ca_aok said:
Secondly, the CSS leak can't do shit all to steal your bank account aside from telling them which bank you use (assuming they've compiled an exhaustive list of the URLs of every banking site). It has no mechanism to swipe your username or password, it simply shows that you visited a web page. This has nothing to do with accounts being stolen or people's data being released, which is generally collected by methods completely separate from the CSS leak thing (email/username + google is usually a good starting point). I'm not sure if people are misinformed about how this all works or if you're simply trying to extrapolate this "invasion of privacy" to a completely different invasion of privacy. Either way it's a useless comparison.
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I wasnt talking to what extent CSS leaks can be used or its technicality.I am asking,what will you do if a tracker/forum goes beyond exploiting CSS leaks?Are you okay with that too?

ringhunter said:
I have a problem with pirates setting rules amongst pirates, and tying ethics to it.
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This I agree.

ringhunter said:
What I am arguing is the fact that I believe it's wrong for a pirate to set rules for other pirates to abide by
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This I dont agree.A group can have whatever rules they want their members to abide by.If you dont like the rules or dont want to be a member of a group you can leave it or dont join it.Who are you to say pirates shouldnt set rules? and every criminal organisations out there have very strict rules to follow.Do you find that weird as well?

ringhunter said:
One of the my worst gripes with the scene are all the retarded standards; attempting to set rules by which rule breakers are attempted to be contained.
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The people in scene enjoys being in the scene and participating within it.The rules they set are for them to follow and not others outside their circle.If you think they have retarded standards,you are free to release according to your standards or be like p2p groups which has no set standards to follow or dont follow the Scene.The scene likes to have a set rules by which members in it should be following.So what?Since when did a group of "like minded individuals" cant do what they like?

ringhunter said:
Have you even read what I have written?
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I always read before replying.Maybe I may have misunderstood something,that dosent mean I havent read it and is mindlessly writing something.:ermm:
And @ringhunter;Are you supporting what What.CD is doing or are you against it?Just to be clear.Thats all.
 
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