What.cd is spying on Filesharingtalk

zonta said:
look here: http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-everything-related-to-the-board-9/t-trying-to-contact-cabalo-405450


sickofjesus is admin from what.cd and cabalo says :

and for other trackers its the same.... use proxy or don't use fst if you dont want to lose your acc.
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Idiotic opinions for the win. :rolleyes:
If you assume my conversation with sickofjesus was to catch traders, you are quite wrong. He knows very well that trading is accepted at FST, and never he asked me for information on any trader, we are both mature individuals who respect each other, despite obvious clashes of interests. But that wasn't even discussed. They have their mechanisms, as you can read on this thread, but those aren't breaking any of our rules. Ethically speaking, that's a whole different matter.
Opinions like yours are the ones who fuel fire unnecessarily, and spew hate on what.cd because I could bet you already had account(s) disabled there, and it's quite easy to blame us.
The person to blame is you, because you decided to break site's rules and didn't even know how to avoid getting caught.
Blame it on your ignorance.
 
The folks this is catching aren't that concerned about ethics or morality :whistling

Re: Cabalo, I'd use it as supplemental evidence towards whatever you were being accused of doing. Visiting a link proves nothing by itself.
 
ringhunter said:
What I've disagreed with the full time is not the notion that trading is right or wrong, but it's that people seem to think it's morally wrong to trade just because some tracker staff said so.
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The "morally wrong" part comes in that you (presumably) gave your word ( in signing up) not to .
Trading might in and of itself not be "morally wrong" but I'm pretty sure that the majority of the planet agrees that lying is.
 
First off, spell my name right if you're going to make useless accusations against me.

Secondly, the CSS leak can't do shit all to steal your bank account aside from telling them which bank you use (assuming they've compiled an exhaustive list of the URLs of every banking site). It has no mechanism to swipe your username or password, it simply shows that you visited a web page. This has nothing to do with accounts being stolen or people's data being released, which is generally collected by methods completely separate from the CSS leak thing (email/username + google is usually a good starting point). I'm not sure if people are misinformed about how this all works or if you're simply trying to extrapolate this "invasion of privacy" to a completely different invasion of privacy. Either way it's a useless comparison.

For the average non-paranoid member, they'll be able to get far more relevant information about you from your IP and email address. Obviously you could use a disposable email and a VPN and be more conscious about keeping your torrenting identity separate from the rest of your online activity, but many people make no effort to hide who they are elsewhere.

ringhunter said:
Have you even read what I have written? I don't have a problem with you calling someone out on some moral flaw in their conduct. I have a problem with pirates setting rules amongst pirates, and tying ethics to it. The way I see it, and the way I will continue to see it is, it's hypocritical to break rules society put in place, then expect people to have a semblance of respect to rules you yourself make up of nowhere. I hate backie's attitude as much as the next guy, but he's right when it comes to people blindly listening/following to trading/cheating rules. The true "honor among pirates" is the unspoken respect and understanding for each others motives, not the fact that we should aim for an impalpable utopia.
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Not really. The rules are set up to weed out the shit from these sites, which is half the reason to use a private tracker in the first place. Weeding out the shit leads to better speeds and torrent retention in the case of cheaters, and fewer people profiting off your site in the case of traders, the most prolific of which are generally invite sellers.

You're abiding by rules to preserve the establishment you use for your benefit. If you don't like it, get the hell out as far as I'm concerned. There's always The Pirate Bay for those who want a site where you don't have to worry about anything other than snatching a .torrent.
 
ca_aok said:
Oh look, he can copy and paste from backie's blog. To his credit though, he didn't copy the whole article as he usually does.
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Hombre's an idiot.
Btw that's not necessarily my opinion I only copy/pasted it from somewhere else.

Also the title of the thread is wrong it should be "spying on the members of FilesharingTalk".I'm pretty sure that they aren't interested in spying on FST.

Seriously though if I was that concerned about my privacy I wouldn't be on the internet let alone dubious places like these.
 
IdolEyes787 said:
The "morally wrong" part comes in that you (presumably) gave your word ( in signing up) not to .
Trading might in and of itself not be "morally wrong" but I'm pretty sure that the majority of the planet agrees that lying is.
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Understood. Take this hypothetical situation. Trader comes to FST, trades his way into every tracker imaginable. RandonmPseudonym1337 comes along and says "It's amazing what people can achieve when they discard morality."

Which do you think our hypothetical person referred to? The lie, or the trading? I was under the assumption that most people that even bring the topic up to the table for discussion had a gripe with the conduct itself, not with people going back on their word.
 
Glitterstep said:
true that...I have been a VIP there for like a year now,and have never received a single invite in the past.
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Hence why I haven't yet donated there, and won't do so until the day they lift that petty rule (which is never). Instead buying upload credit, I seedboxed my ass off when I could, it's not the most correct thing to do, but hey, those are the rules of the game.
 
ca_aok said:
The folks this is catching aren't that concerned about ethics or morality :whistling
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And neither should anyone. There are no shades of gray on this matter. You're either an outstanding, upright individual lead by his morals, in which case you wouldn't torrent anything, or you are a snake that makes choices, and reaps benefits of other options. I don't think anyone involved with bittorrent has so much as a right to point out moral/ethical flaws in other people's conduct.

"Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."
 
backie said:
Well, I don't think you can expect your personal information to remain private when it's in a public database, such as court records or a whois database. That's just me, I know it's weird. Mabye I should live like you, expect everything to remain private if it could be damaging to me.
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By that logic, you should have no problems with the CSS leak. Let the hypocrisy continue!

And I think if we took a quick poll about whether you'd rather have your address and phone number posted in a publicly visible place or whether you'd rather have someone realize that you've visited BTRACS, I think I know what most people would pick as the greater invasion of privacy.
 
another thought of dual standarts... from what i know, traders hunters are getting banned here for their activities like transparent pixels or smth.. and then other sites are hunting traders here with this css trick. and staff from those sites have accounts here. :)
 
Not really. The rules are set up to weed out the shit from these sites, which is half the reason to use a private tracker in the first place. Weeding out the shit leads to better speeds and torrent retention in the case of cheaters, and fewer people profiting off your site in the case of traders, the most prolific of which are generally invite seller
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I belive every user profits from using a torrent tracker aslong as they download stuff they don't. This whole let's not let people make money from piracy is just silly, when I was younger and there was no broadband in the UK I used to buy pirate VCDS (yea that far back) I was happy to do so and got my monies worth. Yet some people think that selling pirate DVDs is worse than downloading the stuff for your own usage or that selling invites to a tracker so someone who doesn't have the connections can download free shit too.
 
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