What.cd is spying on Filesharingtalk

I am very aware of our shitty rights given to us on the matter.
Which is why I take my privacy into my own hands as much as I can.

But let me get this straight, you support the css leak that what.cd is exploiting?
What are your feelings about me blocking this cute little exploit?

You're disclosing far more by giving them your IP and a non-disposable email than you are by telling them you've viewed an arbitrary page online that they have to specify, especially when it's easily circumvented in any browser.
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Not necessarily, what if my facebook or myspace or online banking seeps through the css leak? I prize that information more than my ip address and my email address (which not to mention is untraceable and is disposable)
It's not like a virus that steals your username and password, but still the fact that they could look at my personal information on myspace/facebook or any personal site is not ok with me.
 
cinephilia said:
an opinion doesn't imply trying to convince people.
you know, never disagreeing with anyone just because you respect their thoughts and beliefs doesn't make you more respectable or anything :shifty:
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Depends on the site we're speaking of. I can think of one or two where it is an unspoken rule.
 
On a side note I actually know several people who join torrenting groups on facebook and add people as friends, which I find kinda funny. Linking your real name to the torrenting world isn't necessarily a good idea, but that goes beyond what's discussed here.

Sure some people are too paranoid, and that's their call. It still can look suspicious from an outside point of view. I'm not saying that such a perception is good or valid, it's simply a statement that to tracker staff you'll appear shifty if you're using different details everywhere.

Funkin' said:
I don't have the same nick or email on every tracker. Do I appear to be a trader or have something to hide? I think that only closed-minded or immature people would come to this kind of conclusion. ;)
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Trader :whistling

But seriously, if you hadn't noticed by now that description fits several staff members, so I'd probably wager they're warming up your global ban as we speak :lol:

ringhunter said:
Which do you think our hypothetical person referred to? The lie, or the trading? I was under the assumption that most people that even bring the topic up to the table for discussion had a gripe with the conduct itself, not with people going back on their word.
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One of the root reasons trading is bad is because you've inherently broken an agreement you made when you signed up for your own personal profit. It's hard to differentiate the two in this context, people might have an issue with the conduct, but part of the conduct is being dishonest and deceitful.
 
I have no problem with it personally, as I'm not receiving trade PMs or downloading cheat clients so it's completely irrelevant to me.

I don't have any sympathy for the people that are treating their accounts as commodities to trade, sell, or exploit to their maximum benefit before tossing them aside and grabbing some more. Making their lives harder isn't much of a concern for me.

If you're a trader and you're pissy about it, there's a browser fix for all the major browsers.
 
cinephilia said:
lol at your armchair theory, especially the "I don't think anyone involved with bittorrent has so much as a right to point out blah blah" part (which has become a classic in this forum).
as if all ethical questions could be compared on the same level... :frusty:
that's just like saying "you can't embrace a moral point of view cause you once went to jail".
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Clearly you and I are on different notes. We are pirates. We embrace illegal activity to get our daily fix of music, games, applications, movies, and for the insane, even TV series. That's wrong. There are no shades of gray, it's just wrong. Yet we do it, because we all can inexplicably relate to the love of free content, no matter the moral obligations to the creators and producers of said content.

Any pirate is therefore a person who sets aside moral/ethical commitments for the most part, because you find them pointless. Yet, most pirates then go on and set an ethical code of their own which they expect others to abide to.

My point is, if you are clearly unethical and unyielding of the rights or wrongs understood and followed by a respectable chunk of society, who are you to set rules or point out the flaws in other people's ethics? Maybe just as you hold the right to hold your own opinions of ethics and which lines to cross, someone else holds the same belief when it comes to trading, selling, racism etc.

Better? I'm not saying that I should disregard someone's opinion. I'm pointing out that that someone is hypocritical if he breaks (and continues to) society's rules, then creates ones of his own out of thin air expecting people to follow it.
 
Tv Controls you said:
I'm sure you would be complaining if you got sued for displaying pedomax's personal details without his consent in public.

*side note... 1,000 post! lol
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You can't get sued. Why don't people understand this already? If he paid a public outlet for phishing people's information then it would be questionable. Mirroring freely available information is what makes google so rich. Backie cannot be sued for it.
 
ca_aok said:
And using different names and emails on each site makes you appear to be a trader, or at the very least someone with something to hide, so there's definitely truth to that.
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I don't have the same nick or email on every tracker. Do I appear to be a trader or have something to hide? I think that only closed-minded or immature people would come to this kind of conclusion. ;)
 
So true.

ringhunter said:
Any pirate is therefore a person who sets aside moral/ethical commitments for the most part, because you find them pointless. Yet, most pirates then go on and set an ethical code of their own which they expect others to abide to.
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Also by the looks of it caook and ringhunter wont even mind if their bank accounts get stolen or if their personal info is made public.And lol@"We are pirates so we cant talk about morality/ethics".Then lemme ask you,who are ideal candidates who can talk about morality and ethics.
 
ca_aok said:
I have no problem with it personally, as I'm not receiving trade PMs or downloading cheat clients so it's completely irrelevant to me.

I don't have any sympathy for the people that are treating their accounts as commodities to trade, sell, or exploit to their maximum benefit before tossing them aside and grabbing some more. Making their lives harder isn't much of a concern for me.

If you're a trader and you're pissy about it, there's a browser fix for all the major browsers.
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I'm sure you would have a problem if the IIPA or Warner was looking at your css links, Mr. double standards.
 
trying to defend one site by trying to attack the other one - it's a bit weak logic to say at least

ExtraDry said:
Who cares if sites check these threads out their only trying to get rid of the dead wood from their sites can't blame them for that.
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the end justifies the means? my wild guess is that cheaters use the same logic :)
 
I never saw what the big fuss was about that ordeal. Are they installing the cameras in your home? No, they aren't. Public streets are their property, it's their call what to do with them. I don't see people complain about CCTV cameras in say, banks. Well, perhaps bank robbers might have other ideas about those...

TvControlsYou said:
Not necessarily, what if my facebook or myspace or online banking seeps through the css leak? I prize that information more than my ip address and my email address (which not to mention is untraceable and is disposable)
It's not like a virus that steals your username and password, but still the fact that they could look at my personal information on myspace/facebook or any personal site is not ok with me.
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No they can't. They can only see that you visited a specific page. They can't even prove the page you visit is your own profile. And if you have your privacy set, they won't even be able to reach that page themselves. And what exactly about online banking is going to leak? You visited their login.php page? Most links past that have hashed URLs that would be impossible to predict without serious prior knowledge, and even then what? You visited the "view stock options" page? You visited the page to make a transfer? None of the information would be particularly useful.

This isn't some magical thing that lets you see a snapshot of whatever they're viewing. It simply demonstrates whether you've visited a site, which on its own isn't proof of anything.
 
Making profit of torrents is perfectly ok, I highly suspect this site is making a profit off illegal torrent community. Sites such as xirvik and other seedbox providers are making profit off illegal torrents. Usenet companies are making a profit off piracy. It's just the trackers have decided theres a few things they don't like and people like you tow the line.
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I would be stupid not to believe that there is alot of people using bittorrent to make gains, just take PTP for example...
If you read anything on this thread you would realize I don't "tow the line" as I openly speak up against the css attack..

This is how sites get shut down, idiots like you going out and selling dvd's then getting caught.
Being the idiot you are you rat out a private tracker, and then they are focusing on the private tracker.

If your just trying to justify your own situation for attempting to make money off Bt with your sorry ass blog, and selling some bootlegs.. I really feel sorry for you.
 
They do this with cheat forums aswell as Anon can tell you. IMO it just adds to their bad image of already jumping to assumptions and banning without a "fair trial".
 
Its kind of hard to expect people to follow all the rules, when you make a rule that you can only download the files you have the legal rights to. I believe I've seen that rule on the majority of trackers I frequent. Obviously they don't expect you to follow all the rules, or they wouldn't be in 'business'.
 
ca_aok said:
I never saw what the big fuss was about that ordeal. Are they installing the cameras in your home? No, they aren't. Public streets are their property, it's their call what to do with them. I don't see people complain about CCTV cameras in say, banks. Well, perhaps bank robbers might have other ideas about those...
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Example, theres 8 or so camera's in my building alone, basically watching everyone's front door and I don't think I've ever seen the cops dealing with any crime in the row of flats I live in. Kinda pointless cameras. In the likes of the Shetland Islands there are more cameras than in the whole of San Fransico with 5.6 cameras per 1000 people. (Source wired uk 05.10) when an area that has one of the lowest crime stats in the Uk has more camera's than San Fransico something is seriously up. It's not like they catch many criminals in the act.
 
Oh look, he can copy and paste from backie's blog. To his credit though, he didn't copy the whole article as he usually does.


So when What's staff does it, it's an invasion of privacy, but when FST's staff does it it's not :whistling

Can sites do this to your privacy and still you support them? this is madness nad the defeat of all ur privacy.
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There's a pretty simple solution to prevent this "invasion of privacy". Don't trade. It's funny how the slower ones have a hard time comprehending that. If you don't trade you don't need to worry about proxies, scores of usernames and emails, CSS leaks, IP matches, trader hunters, or the constant worry of being caught. It's funny how some people never learn.
 
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