What.cd is spying on Filesharingtalk

It's only a problem if you've got something to hide
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I don't like the fact that anyone can see what I'm viewing on the internet, so I try to limit all the ways possible to keep my privacy.

I'm entitled to privacy when browsing the internet, and I don't believe any site should breach that.
 
Nothing you said here negates the statement you quoted. There are a few trackers with a narrowminded view towards FST (BitMe and x264.me come to mind) but just because a few staff members are like that doesn't make your example the defining rule against my statement. It's more the exception to the rule.

kukushka said:
and there's no universal way of how to avoid it - from one side it's better to try not to give them any information at all on which they could take some actions and from this side css leak is a no-no even for those who formally don't brake no trackers rules, from other side - not giving information, using different nicks/emails can also make you a shady user in the eyes of staffers...
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Regarding giving them no information: this isn't possible. If you want something like that, go use a public tracker through a proxy. And using different names and emails on each site makes you appear to be a trader, or at the very least someone with something to hide, so there's definitely truth to that.

kukushka said:
ps between histories that i witnessed during my time in bt, i saw US guy being disabled on some tracker because somebody found the similar nick on some indian trading forum with 2 year old messages. just one example of how bright staff can be sometimes.
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I don't think there's a single BT user that hasn't seen a staff member somewhere make a poor decision. Shit happens sometimes. Without knowing more about that specific situation it's hard to comment further on it.

kukushka said:
pps it's more or less common practice to ban users belonging to some countries, so punishing users because of being users of other sites may be even less "nazi" thing to do actually ;)
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If you're a member of say, the big cheating forum, obviously there's going to be some scrutiny from tracker staff.
 
Cabalo said:
It's totally true that bitme won't give invites to users they know to be members of FST.
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Their is no doubt about this fact.

I have seen that when sites frame more stringent rules, they carve their own grave or they hinder their own progress or they do harm to them self one way or other.
 
ringhunter said:
And neither should anyone. There are no shades of gray on this matter. You're either an outstanding, upright individual lead by his morals, in which case you wouldn't torrent anything, or you are a snake that makes choices, and reaps benefits of other options. I don't think anyone involved with bittorrent has so much as a right to point out moral/ethical flaws in other people's conduct.

"Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."
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lol at your armchair theory, especially the "I don't think anyone involved with bittorrent has so much as a right to point out blah blah" part (which has become a classic in this forum).
as if all ethical questions could be compared on the same level... :frusty:
that's just like saying "you can't embrace a moral point of view cause you once went to jail".
 
You're disclosing far more by giving them your IP and a non-disposable email than you are by telling them you've viewed an arbitrary page online that they have to specify, especially when it's easily circumvented in any browser.

You aren't entitled to privacy, you expect it. In fact if you take a look at the DMCA and the Patriot Act (since your flag is american) you'll see that you actually have very few rights to privacy online as far as the government is concerned.
 
Not really, it's not my info posted so it's irrelevant to me, simply pointing out that he doesn't give a shit about privacy as long as he's selling his drivel.

I can certainly sympathize much more with someone that has their real life shit posted compared to some trader that loses an internet account though. There aren't any real life consequences to trading, but there are real life consequences to having the personal details of torrent site admins posted.
 
Not really, it's not my info posted so it's irrelevant to me, simply pointing out that he doesn't give a shit about privacy as long as he's selling his drivel.
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It's more that I don't think you can expect privacy in public. Such as if you're in the street you can't complain if someone takes your picture. If your information is in a public database you can't complain with someone mirrors it.
 
ringhunter said:
Asking for any person or group to short-change themselves when it comes to doing their jobs because I don't agree with the moral side of it is egotistical.
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an opinion doesn't imply trying to convince people.
you know, never disagreeing with anyone just because you respect their thoughts and beliefs doesn't make you more respectable or anything :shifty:
 
cinephilia said:
quite unfair considering that visiting those threads doesn't necessarily make you a trader or else.
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This is the reason why at times good people's account also get banned, and the real old hardcore traders get away as they all are well aware of latest spying tricks and how to safegaurd themself from them.
 
ca_aok said:
I have no problem with it personally, as I'm not receiving trade PMs or downloading cheat clients so it's completely irrelevant to me.
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"if you have nothing to feel guilty about, then what's the problem?"
that's what uk government said about the millions cctv cameras they installed all over the country.

you just can't violate people's privacy under the pretence that traders are a nuisance to your site - it's a matter of principles.
 
I belive every user profits from using a torrent tracker aslong as they download stuff they don't. This whole let's not let people make money from piracy is just silly, when I was younger and there was no broadband in the UK I used to buy pirate VCDS (yea that far back) I was happy to do so and got my monies worth. Yet some people think that selling pirate DVDs is worse than downloading the stuff for your own usage or that selling invites to a tracker so someone who doesn't have the connections can download free shit too.
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Its also highly punishable to distribute copyright infringed material, whereas it is a lesser punishment for owning it for personal use.

The reason we don't want people to sell pirate dvd's is to defer attention towards our bittorrent sites.
The less people that get caught selling bootlegs, the less heat on BT.

The fact that you support selling invites and selling pirated dvd's is truly disturbing to me, as nearly every BT community looks down upon both acts.
But what was I expecting from the jellyfish of bittorrent?

Turning profit on Illegal torrents is a big no-no around here, doesn't matter who we are talking about. The private tracker, owner, staff, members, or anyone associated with it.
 
Tv Controls you said:
Its also highly punishable to distribute copyright infringed material, whereas it is a lesser punishment for owning it for personal use.

The reason we don't want people to sell pirate dvd's is to defer attention towards our bittorrent sites.
The less people that get caught selling bootlegs, the less heat on BT.

The fact that you support selling invites and selling pirated dvd's is truly disturbing to me, as nearly every BT community looks down upon both acts.
But what was I expecting from the jellyfish of bittorrent?

Turning profit on Illegal torrents is a big no-no around here, doesn't matter who we are talking about. The private tracker, owner, staff, members, or anyone associated with it.
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Ok, you had a good post, I was gonna let it ride even thou it was flawed. Then you edit it to insult me for not decent reason and then you talk some more crap.

See because the amount of ways to get bootleg/pirate movies there is usenets,xdcc,torrents,the scene. The amount of bootleggers doesn't really affect the amount of heat on torrents.

Making profit of torrents is perfectly ok, I highly suspect this site is making a profit off illegal torrent community. Sites such as xirvik and other seedbox providers are making profit off illegal torrents. Usenet companies are making a profit off piracy. It's just the trackers have decided theres a few things they don't like and people like you tow the line.
 
If your information is in a public database you can't complain with someone mirrors it.
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I'm sure you would be complaining if you got sued for displaying pedomax's personal details without his consent in public.

*side note... 1,000 post! lol
 
I could be at your doorstep by tomorrow!
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Really? If you really want to meet me that bad, I'll be at bonnaroo.
I may even stop by the what.cd stand. lol

As for my door step... I don't even exist on a map.:ninja:
 
I don't know whether you wrote this yourself or just copy & pasted it, but they started using this attack over a year ago.

Tv Controls you said:
Not necessarily, what if my facebook or myspace or online banking seeps through the css leak?
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Currently, it works in a hit-or-miss fashion. They can't read the whole history, only check if specific links have been visited - so they'd have to know the URL to your Facebook/MySpace profile first, and then it'd be pointless to "find" it this way.
 
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