What.cd and Waffles ban Azureus and Deluge
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need computer help
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anon-sbi isn't that bad of a guy shows peeps respect here seems to love these to help others out,
however he needs to one day realize when using cheats mods the only ones your hurting are the fellow members of that site,as your not seeding back to them.
If everyone did it guess what, no one would get any files or they get them very slowly.
however he needs to one day realize when using cheats mods the only ones your hurting are the fellow members of that site,as your not seeding back to them.
If everyone did it guess what, no one would get any files or they get them very slowly.
Brittany G
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Maybe it's just the liberal in me but I have personally always felt that the best way to solve problems and resolve our differences is through dialogue .
The way I see it , anon has been nothing short of resourceful(technically) and also helped a lot of members here. I don't recall seeing any posts of his which encouraged fsters to cheat. As far as I'm concerned he can do what he likes in his private/professional life as long as it causes no harm to fsters. Heck I don't even know the guy, just judging from his posts.
More power to you anon,keep posting mate.
I love the way FST doesn't judge its members by their reputation on a particular torrent site or another forum. I feel privileged and proud to be a part of FST because of the unbiased treatment meted out to members. People would never express their views openly without fear if it wasn't for the free spirited nature of FST.
^^What he said .
My first knee-jerk reaction when anon-sbi started posting here was an immediate ban but seeing as little except making myopic people such as yourself feel better what purpose does that really serve?
A statement? I honestly I'd much rather make the statement that people are allowed a chance to give an opinion here and leave it up to the intelligence ( or lack thereof) of our members to determine for themselves what to make of that opinion.
As for the analogy here's another .Non-acceptable behavior like fungi require the dark to grow . Expose either to the light of day and they tend to wither.
Other than that all I will say is that anon knows what is and isn't permissible here and up to this point has lived up to his word and never promoted either his personal philosophy or his site at FST.
Now if that is not good enough for you you are welcome to again scurry off .
In the words of Eldridge Cleaver " If you are not part of the solution......."
You don't need experience to avoid cheating on that kind of torrents, just common sense.
Not to mention the higher bandwidth usage. But what you're talking about is a subset of the "if no one is downloading, you can't be uploading" argument, something which is actually true but has yet to be taken to the form of anti-cheating scripts in a 100% effective way, which is impossible.
Anyway, I think that if you were a tracker admin and the amount of cheating on your site grew to such proportions, you should lower the river (i.e. check what's the real reason for it, and how you can fix that) instead of raising the bridge (coding every time tighter scripts).
Not to mention the higher bandwidth usage. But what you're talking about is a subset of the "if no one is downloading, you can't be uploading" argument, something which is actually true but has yet to be taken to the form of anti-cheating scripts in a 100% effective way, which is impossible.
Anyway, I think that if you were a tracker admin and the amount of cheating on your site grew to such proportions, you should lower the river (i.e. check what's the real reason for it, and how you can fix that) instead of raising the bridge (coding every time tighter scripts).
Frank the Retard
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@John: The slow upload speeds when nobody's leeching is caused by a cheating mod as well.
That's why I'm so pissed. An unmodified version of Azureus works perfectly fine. It's the cheaters who ruin it for the rest.
That's why I'm so pissed. An unmodified version of Azureus works perfectly fine. It's the cheaters who ruin it for the rest.
Benjamin B
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indeed there is cheat mods that do this, the client itself also does though, which is probably the reasoning behind the cheat mods using such an unusual tactic to cheat.
without cheaters though, its certain that azureus would still be whitelisted. im massively in favour of open sourced software, its a shame that such software is so abused in this situation.
without cheaters though, its certain that azureus would still be whitelisted. im massively in favour of open sourced software, its a shame that such software is so abused in this situation.
The torrent's info_hash must be the same for that to happen. It isn't the best method... most of the time the "cheaters" caught using that are people that like in your case, added multiple private tracker URLs to the same torrent (manually or otherwise), and got banned on one of them for reporting upload/download activity it otherwise wasn't tracking.
Adrianne S
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You're going to let your accounts at What and Waffles die? :blink:
I would certainly disagree with these client bans if I was a heavy Vuze or Deluge user, but I wouldn't deprive myself from the two best music trackers in the world...
jennifer_dozer
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His custom title tempts users to go exploring. :dry:
In all seriousness, though, do not ban him. From what I've seen of him on here (wouldn't know anything about his personality down at SBI) he is a decent fellow. Wouldn't make much sense to ban a person based on his actions at another forum, when all he tries to share here is thoughts.
semi_sonic18
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Seems Mihai and his friends don't think like that.
CrazyCoder
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This doesn't affect me as I've been solely using utorrent as many other users, but it's a shame to see such a feature rich client (which is part of why it's more resource heavy I think) that was easily the #2 choice to be banned from a tracker. Eliminates a lot of choice that the user has in choosing a client of their preference.
And ExtraDry brings up a good point, if this has any sort of a domino effect it could mean bad things ahead for Azureus.
And ExtraDry brings up a good point, if this has any sort of a domino effect it could mean bad things ahead for Azureus.
Jredcorn77
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The majority of Azureus use comes from public trackers, and I think the fact that they wouldn't comply with a large private tracker shows they don't care.
Its so convenient for new users to use Azureus because of their built in search options and easy queuing options. They profit off the searches done on the vuze network because its intergrated right in.
I can see clearly from a buisness aspect why they may not even want to be involved with private trackers, as it doesn't involve any of their own software/vuze network.
BitComet for instance has been blacklisted mostly everywhere but still runs with tons of supporters till this day.....
Vuze has 10x the BT client BitComet will ever have and will always be a leader in windows clients because of its simplicity and integration of all aspects of BT on the client software itself.
I also only use utorrent as I don't need any of the features offered in vuze and I prefer a more light BT client. So I don't really mind the ban, but as the old saying goes "don't put all your eggs in one basket".
Fupid Stucker
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Oh, so you've read SB-I's version of this thread. :lol:
The name stuck even though the mod no longer goes by it. Just like some people call the client "Azureus" even though it was renamed to "Vuze" a long time ago.
The name stuck even though the mod no longer goes by it. Just like some people call the client "Azureus" even though it was renamed to "Vuze" a long time ago.
You wanna know my thoughts?
It's fucking cheaters like YOU who use modified Azureus versions who are responsible for this.
Thousands of honest and good Azureus users like myself have to suffer now, because you and your cheating friends in your shitty forum ruin it for all.
There used to be a time when known cheaters were banned from FST. Nowadays they can happily spam the forum.
You are a plague for the private tracker scene. You're not only a cheater yourself but also teach people how to do it.
I can't use my favourite client on the best music trackers now because cheaters like YOU exploit open source software.
You're saying he's worse tha just a cheater or that he's better than most cheaters?
Just so I understand, I don't want to make any conclusions (but I do all the time
).The Black Rabbit of Inlé
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uTorrent devs themselves have acknowledged there are problems associated with uTP and promised that they will be addressed in 2.0.1; this announcement was run by a uTorrent dev himself on a couple of private trackers I'm on.
Depends on the size of torrents you are downloading. Deluge tends to misrepresent numbers when they get too large, in order to compensate for the fact that its peering and packet pick-ups is absolutely flawed. On large torrents the number misrepresentation can be as much as 20% of the torrent size, hardly ignorable. A month back a bug was found, and the devs were alerted and they said they would fix it, but I am yet to see it happen.
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As for the whole Anon-SBI being a cheater ordeal, I still think it's a problem that plagues society. This is a lot like Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged' where people are so concerned with usurping their superiors that they forget about people trying to usurp them. The same happens in the BT world. People are so concerned about cheating the economical system, that they forget about the people trying to cheat them. No matter what system is made, it will be cheated, and there will be more cheaters cheating the cheaters. The whole thing just goes on and on to invite more cheaters to the hive. Do people actually think there's no holes/problems with uTorrent? On the contrary. If someone wants to really cheat using uTorrent, I'm sure they will do it eventually.
EDIT: Being a uTorrent user myself, I'm not affected by most decisions, and yet I see the fact that uTorrent is gaining market share, at the least, unnerving. People are forgetting that it remains closed source, which means that when the time comes, corporate schemes can and will come into the picture in the way with which we interact with torrents, either through DRM or through other annoying features that none of us will be able to complain about, since at this rate, we're bringing it on ourselves.
Depends on the size of torrents you are downloading. Deluge tends to misrepresent numbers when they get too large, in order to compensate for the fact that its peering and packet pick-ups is absolutely flawed. On large torrents the number misrepresentation can be as much as 20% of the torrent size, hardly ignorable. A month back a bug was found, and the devs were alerted and they said they would fix it, but I am yet to see it happen.
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As for the whole Anon-SBI being a cheater ordeal, I still think it's a problem that plagues society. This is a lot like Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged' where people are so concerned with usurping their superiors that they forget about people trying to usurp them. The same happens in the BT world. People are so concerned about cheating the economical system, that they forget about the people trying to cheat them. No matter what system is made, it will be cheated, and there will be more cheaters cheating the cheaters. The whole thing just goes on and on to invite more cheaters to the hive. Do people actually think there's no holes/problems with uTorrent? On the contrary. If someone wants to really cheat using uTorrent, I'm sure they will do it eventually.
EDIT: Being a uTorrent user myself, I'm not affected by most decisions, and yet I see the fact that uTorrent is gaining market share, at the least, unnerving. People are forgetting that it remains closed source, which means that when the time comes, corporate schemes can and will come into the picture in the way with which we interact with torrents, either through DRM or through other annoying features that none of us will be able to complain about, since at this rate, we're bringing it on ourselves.