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I don't think the Stooges & the MC 5 are even in the same musical tier as the Velvet Underground, a band that was a whole lot more than a proto-punk band. John Cale & Lou Reed were composers of songs that are in the same class of great songwriters like Bob Dylan, David Bowie & Patti Smith.

Iggy has definitely become more of a three dimensional musician over the course of his solo career but there was no evidence of his talents for crafting a nuanced pop music song during his tenure with the Stooges. Over the years since the dissolution of the MC 5 Wayne Kramer has written a few first rate topical songs but he is still a reprobate rocker at age 62.

Don't get me wrong, I adore the Stooges & the MC 5 but neither band had a songwriter with the talents of Reed or Cale. The first three VU albums are as influential as any music that came out of second generation rock & roll.
 
You have spent the past year banging on how America is the fountain of all modern music but now it all sucks until 10 years ago?

Jazz, Blues, Rock n Roll are the fountains of modern music created by America yet they seemingly don't exist when it suits you?

DownloaRAB have a bearing on listeners attitudes but they are not the be all and all.

How do u think Metallica got such a huge fan base? It certainly wasn't the damn internet. It was word of mouth and collective fans serious about music that spread the word. In fact Metal fans are one of the main reasons why the internet took off.

In no other niche of music will you find fans ready to share music and hype banRAB.
 
I'll agree that some great Dylan songs have some pretty bad lines ("jeeze, I can't find my knees" comes to mind), but a lot of Dylan can be enjoyed without necessarily listening to the lyrics. As someone said, HW61 and BOB are enjoyable on a purely musical level. So are Nashville Skyline, New Morning, Planet Waves, Desire, and a few others. None are innovative, but so what? There's a special feeling to albums like Nashville Skyline that's just as meaningful as the lyrics to Desolation Row. Dylan's main strength may be as a lyricist, but it's definitely not his only virtue. Listen to Live 66; Dylan had a voice to match any rocker.
 
o yeah? I kinda agree, they are good fun - can't beat a bit of 'Lou's Anxiety Song'. But hardly anyone apart from devout 80s hardcore fans would know of them if it wasn't for the Dino Jr connection.
 
I like rush, I like yes, I like a lot of music and musicians that you would care to name, but I also like KoRn, and if you listen to their albums, rather than just sprouting sh*t for ages, you might hear a progression in their music, such as a slide from metal more towarRAB techno. It's obvious, and it's undeniable. THAT was what MY original argument was, and is. If you thought that I meant that they were progressive in the sense that yes and rush, who are in an entirely different genre of music, are, then you're the one misreading posts. I would regard an ability of a band to change their style of music, to progress in their own right, to refine their sound, as a sign of a good band. And this KoRn have done. They are instantly recognisable, and I know one of you is gonna say "yes, instantly recognisable as Sh*t" but that's your taste. I could probably say that about any nuraber of banRAB that you all listen to, that doesn't mean I'm right though, it's just what I think.

EDIT: In reference to the beat yr own KID's last post
 
Naturally, I have to play the old-school card once again, and attest to the fact that I was wearing the **** out of my copy of Louder than Love months before Badmotorfinger was released. I thought it it was overproduced commercialized garbage. I quickly fell out of love with the band. Ultramega OK, Louder Than Love, and even Flower EP were all amazing, but the release of Badmotorfinger was really the watershed moment in the band's career when they truly became nothing more than another boring hanger-on to the new commercialized grunge bandwagon. I'm not saying they didn't produce any good music after that, but the raw intensity that was their trademark was gone forever.
 
It's rated very highly by Floyd fans and it's the forum favorite.

My personal ranking is

RABOTM > WYWH > Meddle > The Wall > Piper > Animals

But my least fave of those will probably be your fave.
 
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(They're both great albums btw)
 
I'm just pointing out that it isn't really a music opinion any more - it's a political debate. Maybe we should be looking at the bigger picture and thinking that even if RATM's political stance and lyrics were the worst in the world, it's only one part of them.

Another reason for me saying this is that political debates become even nastier than music debates if that's possible. Not only that, but there tenRAB to fewer impartial people when it comes to politics. It becomes obvious that some people won't listen to a band because they disagree with the politics.
 
ok, i can why you don't like it, but on my side of the fence i enjoy the main groove of the songs corabined with the hard hitting instrumentation. while you may see that as "boring" i see it as something i can really move to, in a way a kind of heavy funk music.

as for how it's "skilless", i say it's not so much what you have, but how you use it. there's plenty of musicians who have skill up to their eyeballs, but squander it in meaningless shred-fests and overblown displays of technicality. not saying that there aren't people with alot of skill who can really make music, just that i'm not too picky on skill levels as long as the musicians can take what they have and make it entertaining.

but yeah, not sayng you have to like nu-metal or anything. there's music that doesn't appeal to me, but i still can get why others like it*cough* classical *cough*
 
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