Torrenting - Is the end getting closer ?

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Last year we suddenly all received the news of large sites and important source of our information suddenly closed. Over the years, the fight against sharing/BT in world got stronger and more aggressive, so what does that mean? Are we approaching the end of an era Torrents? What do you think?
 
thizzkid said:
Im sorry, but i can not For the life of me figure out how this forum is a dead on representation of BT as a whole?...

And the reference to BT being full of shit??
Where do you guys get this??
I dont get this AT ALL, my experience in BT.
Ofc if have came ocross my share of scammers/cheaters etc...
But thats only natural in any group of anything there will be a bad apple...

If its so full of shit why are you even posting a BT thread??




Orly? I see it getting stronger all the time, anything thrown at BT, BT surpasses, for example two prominent trackers died around the same time, and what happened??

Trackers around the net welcomed them with open arms...
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Cabalo already explained everything, see his post. And as for representations of community, heh :) This forum is the oldest one dedicated to filesharing. You wanna tell me about TPS and tR? They are too small. TPS is filed by hypocrites and collectors. tR.. I can't say a lot about it. Anyway, all the action is going here.

As for your 2nd statement, if only someone wanted he could take down any major tracker, it's easy. The only problem is within the law system. Scene trackers with Scene axx and auto-bot can fall easily since they do host files on their servers (SURPRISE!).

You must be blind not to see everything.
 
Look Old skool style Sarcasm .. You would expect people to be a bit more original but kids these days :(

apextwin146 said:
.. r we supposed to believe it just cuz u say so?
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First of all who is "we"...
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"We" comprises of the informed/aware p2p users that just dont believe in something cuz some keyboard hugging twat said so

newsgroup fanboi?
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Again your logical reasoning amazes me .. just cuz i rate Newsgroup higher than BT i must be a Newsgroup fanboi cuz there arnt any other p2p/file sharing protocols that exist
 
Tv Controls you said:
1. What do you use now adays then?

2. There are bad people where every you go, although I have no idea what kind of stuff you are seeing in the report section that deters you from BT.

3. Its the fastest method of filesharing and pretty underground on most sites.
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1. I use newsgroups and rapidshare. bt in less than 5% of my needs.

2. FST reflects the good and the bad in bt. Though it's a forum not only for BT, 90%+ of the reports are bt related.
Everything circles around an unspoken economy. The "donations" for an invite; trading sites because some are harder to get into than others (basic economical principle); invites being sold left and right (many times to help pay an invite for an harder to get into site); people scamming each other and trading for the sole purpose of curiosity; most sites being ran by kids who have total disrespect for individual's privacy (see the infamous BT general thread); power hungry kids who use sites just for bragging rights, making them as bad as the traders they so much hate; forums about bt which are private (forum and private in the same sentence :unsure:) and where invites are pushed around like candy, with the trackers knowledge; pseudo-leet communities who think they run bt because the members are selected and have to follow rules of conduit everywhere, so they won't ruin everyone else's chances to join those same rare trackers; the seedbox business which thrives because everyone wants to achieve those high ranks in certain communities which will lead them to think they are good members and then can apply for even more sites (or trade those invites they get along the road); the amount of ass kissers who declared themselves anti-traders because it was a cool trend, when in the end all they want is to please some staffers who are then supposed to "trust" them; did I already mention the staff wars among trackers; users trying to catch other users trading just to show off so they can get invited somewhere else, and so on.

3. No it isn't. :noes: Newsgroups own it anytime, same happens with rapidshare accounts (though these can sometimes depend on the peering).
 
I don't know if torrenting is headed for death, but I do think that it's in a very steep downward spiral. I used to believe that the traders/cheaters/sellers/collectors were the problem with BT, but in reality, they're just a symptom of a broken system that encourages and allows them to do those things.

BT is supposed to be about sharing files, and having a bit of fun socializing while doing it. A LOT of people seem to have forgotten that.
 
thizzkid said:
apextwin146 I wish i was as cool as you...



^^ This post made my fucking day, thanks b3owulf...




Please disable my account
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In an attempt to meet senseless with sense..... if you don't like the board just stop using your account.
It's not like you're Nelson Mandela and making a political statement or anything.:unsure:
 
no its not dying in the near future,10's of sites opening each day,but maybe in some countires torrenting would be made harder,but there are always ways around it.i think
 
I thought you were like 100% BT man lol, sort of just blew my mind.

I agree with all the points you have listed in #2, as I have experienced it all just by being in the general Bt section for over 3 months.
I never used newsgroups ever so I can't compare, but I know torrents are alot faster than rapidshare for me.

I myself dislike BT when tracker staff is immature or power hungry. Especially when they are so full of themselves they forget why they initially made the site... to share files.
 
Friend status is possibly the only reason topsites end up dying. Idiots leave their friends who are security risks on the topsites. Connections, members of groups that died, they all shouldn't be there. And yet they are, they get exposed because they don't hide themselves well, and the whole site topples over.

And Im talking about topsites with top affils, who do you think pays for the best topsites out there? Torrenting communities. For example when TV-Land died, everything came down to a halt. When Loop died, same thing happened. Actually, EVERYONE noticed it when Loop died. The season finale of Dexter wasn't anywhere for a good 4 hours, because not many other topsites had enough affils/racers to get it around as it does, normally.

EDIT: You actually think a topsite that has a 120TB repository is paid for and maintained by the affils on it? Nearly the whole scene is P2P affiliated, and if you're going to be a hypocrite and say I'm wrong, ask yourself what YOU are doing here.
 
I'm not going to read this whole thread but i will say imo there's no way the end is near for torrenting. BT will just continue to evolve and move in interesting directions. I predict we will get at least one or two great new trackers this year. People say its too hard for new trackers to succeed. Yeah if they offer nothing new and the people running them have no idea what they are doing.

There are still a few cool niches left if the people building these new trackers know what they are doing and are creative enough to really think outside the box. If you think you've seen all the innovations trackers have to offer, just wait and sometime this year you may be shocked ;)
 
This made me LOL so hard its really not even funny any more.... :dry:

EDIT: no its still funny

b3owulf said:
As for your 2nd statement, if only someone wanted he could take down any major tracker, it's easy. The only problem is within the law system. Scene trackers with Scene axx and auto-bot can fall easily since they do host files on their servers (SURPRISE!).

You must be blind not to see everything.
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Well buddy you see, you yourself must be blind, because this is the beauty of BT, we do not need servers, and why? Because we as BT users are sharing files from one computer to the next, we dont rely on servers, if axx went down then it would be newsgroups that would die instantaneously, ill let you ponder on that... :whistling
 
we already saw tpb being ip blocked at some traffic hub in NL or how does it called... right now there's no chain reaction with this ip blocking but when it'll start, bt will die very quickly
 
Cabalo said:
No. BT takes a heavy toll on the ISPs infrastructures. Hence all the conversation about traffic shaping and download limits. And it doesn't stop growing.
If it will collapse, it will be due to the ISPs closing the tap.
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here in the states, isp's have tried on many occasions to step up security to stop the "tapping" into their lines. Hasnt worked yet, im still here. Even in the areas newly implemented, security measures have been compromised within days.
 
Tokeman said:
I've personally never paid for a seedbox, or donated to a tracker. Newsgroups also have retention, meaning after a period of time, guess what, no file, so the problem does exist on newsgroups. I dont even want to get into rapidshare and their limits. Torrents exist as long as there are seeders, and there are plenty of files over a year old at most my trackers, many still well seeded.
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Judging from threads like this:

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-newsgroups-79/t-the-end-of-retention-limitations-390273

It's becoming clear that retention, at least for most of the major providers, is becoming more or less irrelevant when considering providers due to the fact that the potential storage available is growing faster than what's being uploaded to usenet.

Even if retention is a factor for your provider, within the 300-400 day span of retention a file is easily uploaded multiple times to usenet. I've yet to a see a file that I've searched for that has only been uploaded one time. Because of that, there are many older files available on usenet that due to being 2,3,4 or even more years old, would download at a crawl on BT sites due to the very small amount of seeders still remaining on the file, while you can download the file from your provider at your maximum connection speed. In that regard, I feel like BT's "retention" (if you can call it that) is actually worse than that of newsgroups.

Then again, one of the most obvious things BT has going for it, unless you're a seedbox whore paying an exorbitant fee to create a buffer, is the fact that it's free, meaning that other, more expensive methods of filesharing won't be overtaking it anytime soon.
 
Well ima old school kinda guy..


apextwin146; said:
"We" comprises of the informed/aware p2p users that just dont believe in something cuz some keyboard hugging twat said so
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Hmm ill quote myself on this one.

thizzkid said:
"Anyways.., you or "yall" can believe what i say if you like.....It is MY OPINION"
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apextwin146 said:
Again your logical reasoning amazes me .. just cuz i rate Newsgroup higher than BT i must be a Newsgroup fanboi
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It was just a question... (you can tell by the question mark at the end ;))

apextwin146 said:
cuz there arnt any other p2p/file sharing protocols that exist
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Well none worth mentioning...:whistling
 
Yea right,in that about 5% is the real traffic,rest are buffers which no one use.Seriously does anyone use the SCC packs apart from making buffer?

ringhunter said:
Newsgroups? Expensive crap. I mean, no offense, I understand some people's fascination with it, but if you're going to pay to file SHARE,
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Pay 11$ and get everything you want or pay 40$ for a decent seedbox for a month and keep all the private trackers alive which you use less than 10% of the actual buffer you make.
Also the old torrents which are dead.Newsgroups or Rapidshare has no such problem.
Have you ever bought a seedbox to buffer you accounts? Have you ever Donated to a site to immune yourself from inactivity,or for getting invites or for getting buffers?Then you are paying to leech.
 
i knw it
apextwin146; said:
"We" comprises of the informed/aware p2p users that just dont believe in something cuz some keyboard hugging twat said so
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Hmm ill quote myself on this one.

thizzkid said:
"Anyways.., you or "yall" can believe what i say if you like.....It is MY ONION"
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You have a right to opinon whereas we have a right to ignore baseless opinon .. You want to be heard and noticed support your opinion with some facts just dont randomly spew out shit cuz you have a keyboard and internet access ..
apextwin146 said:
Again your logical reasoning amazes me .. just cuz i rate Newsgroup higher than BT i must be a Newsgroup fanboi
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It was just a question... (you can tell by the question mark at the end ;))


apextwin146 said:
cuz there arnt any other p2p/file sharing protocols that exist
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Well none worth mentioning...:whistling
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DumbASs it was one single statement
"just cuz i rate Newsgroup higher than BT i must be a Newsgroup fanboi cuz there arnt any other p2p/file sharing protocols that exist"
Re read it again slowly till it makes sense
 
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