Torrenting - Is the end getting closer ?

By far, torrenting is the easiest and perhaps best way to share files. BT will survive until something better comes along. There is no talk of trackers to just go away and disappear. You can see new trackers opening up very often and some last for a long time. The other problem is that NG has the worst reputation for illegal content such as child abuse etc.. There is also more competition in the BT community which keeps the whole thing alive.
 
I don't think torrenting is anywhere near the end.I can barely count 3 sites that have gone down as a result of some anti-P2P agency in recent time.

The faces are definitely going to change but BT shall/will
 
Cabalo said:
3. No it isn't. :noes: Newsgroups own it anytime, same happens with rapidshare accounts (though these can sometimes depend on the peering).
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Don't know what BT sites you are on but newsgroups won't max out a gbit connection, a good BT site will. Not to mention newsgroups pretimes are generally slower than a fast BT tracker as well.
 
My post wasn't meant to create a war between NG and BT.
It's pretty clear to everybody that newsgroups are a superior form of filesharing than BT, for many reasons pointed out at this thread.
BT is no longer the community/protocol I knew. And I explained why, the economics behind it destroyed its original feeling.
I can tell you for example that the first tracker ever in my country was a spin off created by many people who were at a newsgroups related forum, and who decided to create a tracker just for fun, as a community. It became huge with time, and then came the economics I talked about. Conclusion: it closed.

If bt will die or not, I hope so, only if this means a new, easily reachable by the masses and superior protocol is meanwhile created. We all want evolution. Until then it will struggle with its problems, like all other protocols had in the past.

This is positive. Innovation is what makes the world go around.
 
It will surely be the hottest target in the coming years, for a fair number of reasons.
From taking up much of the available bandwidth of the ISPs, with so much centralized contents (making it easy to cut the dragon's head), from petty fights between the owners of those sites who thrive sharing everyone's information, being extremely easy to join any tracker (two of the ones that closed last year were supposed to be secretive).

I've used pretty much every available filesharing protocol and followed their "scene", and if there's one I wouldn't miss is bt. (well, I would miss it. For the lulz it provided).
 
I don't think torrenting will ever end in the near future. While public trackers got a big blow in 2009, private trackers have never been bigger. More and more private trackers are popping up every day.
 
I use Rapidshare a lot.90%.Rest 10% I use 2 trackers What.CD and Animebyt.es.Sadly both need seedbox meh.Also if Karagara didnt have such a hard to seed system,I also would have used that too.Thinking of getting into Newsgroups since It makes much more sense than rapidshare.Giganews or Astraweb?Any suggestions?
Also the newly launched BTN looks promising.Ratio less trackers are always an attraction.hehe.

Cabalo said:
That doesn't mean I use that protocol too often. I was dumb enough to have rented seedboxes in the past and donated to sites who were not worthy. I spent my fair amount of time involved deep in that "bt economy".
I just took a breath and thought: what the fuck is this? Is this any worth? My time and my money? No.
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w00t another top Troll for FST,thizzkid :D.
hope you dont quote that :lol:
 
Cabalo said:
It will surely be the hottest target in the coming years, for a fair number of reasons.
From taking up much of the available bandwidth of the ISPs, with so much centralized contents (making it easy to cut the dragon's head), from petty fights between the owners of those sites who thrive sharing everyone's information, being extremely easy to join any tracker (two of the ones that closed last year were supposed to be secretive).

I've used pretty much every available filesharing protocol and followed their "scene", and if there's one I wouldn't miss is bt. (well, I would miss it. For the lulz it provided).
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Don't you use BT for almost all of your downloads?

I use all BT torrent sites myself and warez-bb once in a blue moon. I would die with BT I think lol.

...Anywho back on the topic of BT going down.. The only way they will ever stop BT is if they just start taking tons of people to court.
You shut one site down.... We move to the next one... this will happen forever (not to sound unsympathetic because I have great respect for sites that get shut down)
 
Cabalo said:
If bt will die or not, I hope so, only if this means a new, easily reachable by the masses and superior protocol is meanwhile created. We all want evolution. Until then it will struggle with its problems, like all other protocols had in the past.

This is positive. Innovation is what makes the world go around.
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But if BT died we would lose trackers like HDbits, musicvids, blackcats, KG, TT, BTmusic, DB9, and Norbits(dvdr's). Those are just some examples of specialty trackers that offer amazing content. Could you find most of their content on usenet?

And what about the forums at trackers like FSC, potuk, ftn, and E. If you look past the bad apples there are some tight knit communities to join in on. IDK if usenet offers the same sense of community. Maybe it does but i havent seen many usenet forums.

And what about the people who cant afford usenet, or arent even old enough to get a credit card to order it. i have met many people cant even afford rapidshare and thats only like 10 bucks a month.

Its good to have options. As an example, I like to use some trackers for some things. For other things, I use rapidshare or megaupload or emule. They all have their advantages and disadvantages, and if i lost one of them there would be a big void.
 
l33tpirata13 said:
here in the states, isp's have tried on many occasions to step up security to stop the "tapping" into their lines. Hasnt worked yet, im still here. Even in the areas newly implemented, security measures have been compromised within days.
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Actually it worked fine, it was called "sandvine". Luckily that was declared unethical by the FCC and Comcast were forced to stop.
 
I think the more important question is that if BT does end,what protocol would replace it? But to answer the question ,I don't think it'll end unless ISPs all over the world clamp down on torrenting.
 
No I no longer do. I barely use bt nowadays.
Blame it on FST. It showed me the darkest corners of that world. If you took a look at the report section, you would agree with me without a blink.

Tv Controls you said:
...Anywho back on the topic of BT going down.. The only way they will ever stop BT is if they just start taking tons of people to court.
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No. BT takes a heavy toll on the ISPs infrastructures. Hence all the conversation about traffic shaping and download limits. And it doesn't stop growing.
If it will collapse, it will be due to the ISPs closing the tap.
 
I'm not detached of bt at all. I just see it from a different perspective. One that doesn't please many of those who I have mentioned at #2, which represent 90% of the bt population I've met. :ermm:
I still try my best to make FST (and therefore, the bt community which communicates with this place) a forum where some can actually learn something. It's like fighting with windmills at times, but it's a responsibility of anyone who cares.

That doesn't mean I use that protocol too often. I was dumb enough to have rented seedboxes in the past and donated to sites who were not worthy. I spent my fair amount of time involved deep in that "bt economy".
I just took a breath and thought: what the fuck is this? Is this any worth? My time and my money? No.

FST on the other hand, serves a different purpose. I "donate" my time to this place, and it's well worth it. This forum made me laugh more times than I can remember. It's pure entertainment being a member here. :)

RexNex said:
Don't know what BT sites you are on but newsgroups won't max out a gbit connection, a good BT site will. Not to mention newsgroups pretimes are generally slower than a fast BT tracker as well.
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Do you have a home gigabit connection? I thought so...
Try downloading any .torrent over a couple months old and then compare.
I'm sure any file I download from newsgroups will maximize my home line. With bt that doesn't happen. Therefore, as a end user, newsgroups is way faster than bt. Simple logic. Everything else are bt economics which are ridiculous.
 
newsgroups are inferior to BT....

BT wont stop, and you that dont want to "donate" your time and money in BT and instead waste your time with newsgroups will regret it in time to come.

Not everybody is sucked up in this so called "dark BT economy" well it is if you are part of it yourself, there will always be users/admins etc.. with bad intentions.... But the good or shall is say "normal" people will always outway the bad... If you emerge yourself in the bad parts of BT then too bad for you because your ruining it for yourself...

BT is great, all the people ive met are really cool down-to-earth people.

There is always a market for something, if there is a demand there will be a supplier, when and if isp's start blocking BT then a new one will emerge that doesnt...

BT wont die it will get stronger as time goes on.
 
Piracy will not go away, that much I'm certain of. Different means may arise, because the drive to pirate will always remain stronger than the drive to wipe us out. We are far more motivated to get our stuff for free, than the handful of file-cops are to catch/burn individual file sharers.

What works in our favour is that the ease or difficulty of torrenting depends a great deal on where you're from.

Im fortunate that my country doesn't try to impose the death penalty on BT users.

Gotta love it :) Viva la Pirates !!!
 
gamesover said:
But if BT died we would lose trackers like HDbits, musicvids, blackcats, KG, TT, BTmusic, DB9, and Norbits(dvdr's). Those are just some examples of specialty trackers that offer amazing content. Could you find most of their content on usenet?

And what about the forums at trackers like FSC, potuk, ftn, and E. If you look past the bad apples there are some tight knit communities to join in on. IDK if usenet offers the same sense of community. Maybe it does but i havent seen many usenet forums.

And what about the people who cant afford usenet, or arent even old enough to get a credit card to order it. i have met many people cant even afford rapidshare and thats only like 10 bucks a month.

Its good to have options. As an example, I like to use some trackers for some things. For other things, I use rapidshare or megaupload or emule. They all have their advantages and disadvantages, and if i lost one of them there would be a big void.
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Those groups exclusively releasing their releases on HDBits (IDK if they're still doing that, it's been months) would be bringing their content to the masses through other viable ways. If I'm not wrong, musicvids/TT also has mostly scene content too. Most people at Pedro's also usually upload music from the 20th century only.

Those "tightly-knit" communities that you speak of would be faux if they couldn't gather everybody to an IRC chan or something.

I can tell you in one look that 2 of the trackers you consider them to be "tightly-knit" has actually less than a handful of new posts everyday in their general chat threads.
 
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