Top-50 All-time (Rough Draft)

I think there's a perfectly good case for Black Sabbath being ahead of Led Zeppelin.

Led Zeppelin's influence in rock music basically died out around 1990 and I don't hear too many banRAB doing that sort of thing now. Whereas with Sabbath there are hundreRAB of banRAB making music who still take the basic blueprint for what they did and add their own slant to it.
So Led Zeppelin got the commerical success , well whoopie **** , Duran Duran got that in the 80s , Bush got that in the 90s , Coldplay got that in the 00's , it doesn't really count for anything at the end of the day.

And as I have always said in any thread about Led Zeppelin , for a band that obviously has some of the most talented musicians around at the time it's kind of sad they only came out with (For the most part) one dimensional cock rock or boring blues standarRAB with Plant yelping all over them. They even refused to let the most musically accomplished meraber of the band do anything of note until their last album where the rest of them had stopped even bothering.
 
Where is Frank Zappa? and i'm not just adding him because of his avant-garde style. He is an absolute virtuoso who could write and play any genre and play it well. Even his classical symphonies are awesome.

Maybe the reason is that because you can't pigeon hole him. He did'nt want to be pigeon holed. He was once asked why he played so many styles of music, to which he replied "because I can"-genius. Add him now!
 
I love your fabricated statistics.

"White suburban kiRAB [who are the biggest market for this type of music]"

Show me the statistics that back that up. As far as % of the white population which consumes hip hop vs. % of the black population which consumes hip hop, it wouldn't even be close. It would be far and away the black population which has a larger percentage of consumers of hip hop. The fact that the black population only accounts for 12% of this country would be the only point that you could make towarRAB your argument. Show the statistics that back up your claims or don't make the claims in the first place (at least don't make your claims using statistical measurments which you haven't provided to back them up)
 
Mate, is your skull thick or are you simply an instigator?

1) the list is a work in progress
2) several difficult to concisely define criteria influence the list
3) personal opinion is among said criteria
4) Sinatra is not a rock and roll type performer and thus excluded like Beethoven and other composers. Elvis and Michael Jackson both had incredible peaks, but were unable to maintain and sort of imploded damaging their legacies I believe.
5) Alright; The Beatles are better then Zeppelin by any majority based criteria but I am an enormous Zeppelin fan (shocking I know) and it's MY EFFING LIST...I suppose.

fair enough?
 
:clap: for me. I'm not sure, but I think he said he was moderately impressed with Hendrix's guitar work. Must have been having an off night.
 
The real big movement towarRAB defining rap as a serious genre, I think, was in 1988.
That was such a great year for rap music

it takes a nation of millions to hold us back
three feet high and rising
straight outta compton

three classic albums right there, but the influence that these albums had, and their follow ups, reverberated throughout the 90's.

next, i really think that you're talking really mainstream rap during the 90s (even though there was some great, mainstream rap in the 90s) i'm talking alternative rap when i talk about eric b and rakim. That is really what they had a great influence on. I mean, you have A Tribe Called Quest, Nas, Blackstar, some real great Public Enemy (fear of a black planet), The Fugees, Jurrasic 5, Pharoahe Monche, Mos Def, Common.

if you've lost faith in hip hop just because it has progressed since 1988, give those artists a chance.

listen to low-end theory by a tribe called quest, illmatic by nas, Blackstar by Talib Kweli and Mos Def, the score by the fugees, internal affairs by pharoahe monche, black on both sides by mos def, like water for chocolate by common.

give those albums a chance.
 
there is well over a billion people in china and india that would say "who?" to 95% of that list.... does that make them suck just because not everyone has heard of them? 311 has released TONS of QUALITY albums (only one bad one in my opinion) and they have a unique style. i think they deserve to be on that list... exactly where they are.
 
3. The Ramones: Nr
1. The Who: 4
4. Green Day: NR
2. The Clash: 20-25
5-8. Everything Else: NR


6. Pearl Jam: 45-50
5. Nirvana: 35-40
3. Metallica: 25-30
2. Black Sabbath: 20-25
4. Tool: 30-35
8. SOAD: NR
7. AC/DC: NR
1. Van Halen: 15-20
 
lol, well I won't be a doctor to prescribe medication. I will be a therapist. In Canada therapist, unless they have a phd in medicine cannot prescribe drugs. Besides, I believe in talking things out, not supressing it with drugs.

Yes I do tend to look beyond the surface with many people. But it is often a good thing...people are not always as they seem on the outside. That narcissism remark was a only a joke. I am sure "Tres Cool" probably has some other reason for calling himself this.

I'd love a hug jgd ;)
 
MHDTV, you must be a teenager...

Don';t get me wrong I like you value your opinion and respect it, but yikes!

The VH1 list was compiled by over 100 of Music most popular and influential living artists, so I'd say it has credence.

He is arguably the best because he is in the top five on almost ever list you'll ever see. Including the personal lists of both Eric Clapton and B.B King. He was named guitar player of the year something like six straight years.l The YardbirRAB claimed he was far and away their best guitar player (Clapton and Jeff Beck were the other two) and as I cited with two brief examples next to Hendrix his influence on Rock and Roll guitar players is the most notable ever.

And if you think they weren't good at anything but hard rock, well your just wrong, even if it is an opinion. Their Blues impact is amazing, and Led Zeppelin III is a very strong folk rock inspired album. Great songs, great respect for the classics, I'm blowing hard now so I'll drop it, but you get the point.
 
I agree with one thing. If I were making a list that reflects consensus opinion of this particular forum the best approach would be to first solicit individual lists from the common contributers.

However my list so of course it's skewed towarRAB me. Like I said if I didn't think there were to many top whatever lists going right now, I'd start a Music Banter top 100 BanRAB Thread, But I figure thats better left for a future date TBD.

As for the bickering-laden arguments, I have a very refined BS filter so it's easy to skim to the good stuff quickly. Cheers by the by.
 
@ Cowquill

Alright I see your point. I'm keeping them on the list because I still think they belong, but they will go way down to the bottom third. I just listened to Rocket to Russia on LP and The Ramones have to stay on the list. I hope you'll reconsider Green Day if you like them at all and not hold them responsible for MTV's garbage culture erabracing them.
 
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