SHOCKING NEWS: 720p PS3 games downscale on older HD sets ***RANT***

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nuyoricanone

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That sucks, i dont own a PS3 and i dont plan on getting one anytime soon. But for the amount of money you guys spent on the system they should have at least made this option available.
 
I definitely agree that a scaler for 1080i should have been built in to the PS3. The 1080p resolution on HDTVs has been the exception rather than the norm for the last few years. It appears to me that Sony built the PS3 with their eyes only on the future and didn't give much thought to those that had older HDTVs
 
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/15/720p-ps3-games-downscale-on-older-hd-sets/

Why the hell would Sony do this?

Anyone with a HDTV only capable of 1080i will be forced to play many games in 480p.
Many of the older HDTV's are NOT capable of 720p, and many PS3 games, such as Resistance:Fall of Man, are not capable of running in 1080i. Therefore, the only alternative for someone owning an older HDTV is to play it in EDTV, which is 480p.

All that pretty much means is people who own an older HDTV will NOT be able to play most of the games in HDTV, as almost all of them do not support
1080i.

IGN confirmed it. They said they tried it on a 1080i TV that cannot accept 720p input sources and the games played in 480p on the TV.

I hope nobody is waiting for a Sony confirmation on this. It's not like they will ever confirm this. If it's a software issue, they will probably update the dashboard without saying anything.

Isnt this sony, who is supposed to have the true "HD" gaming system. This havent been left out, this was intentional.
The debate between 720 and 1080i is very irrelevant to this, because for a new console not to support this is ridiculous. Im so glad i have a 360.

Sony, once again, shows their inability to deliver on the promises they set. The 360 is the only *true* HD gameing console out of the box. MS gives you the cables you need, and supports *all* HDTV's. The PS3 emphatically does not.


Sony's 'paper launch' this year is really pretty sad and dissapointing. While I obviously support MS over Sony, even I was hoping/expecting more from this launch... but Sony has failed to even live up to my pesimistic expectations.

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1) They failed to launch when they said they would.

2) They failed to have a world wide launch.

3) They failed to meet the numbers they promised at 1 million units on launch day.

4) They failed to meet the 100k units on launch day in Japan.

5) They're not going to hit the 400k units on day one here (likely half that).

6) Blu-ray hasn't proven to add anything to games, and in fact has only proven to read disks slower than most would like.

7) The system can't be used on an HDTV out of the box (regardless of which version you buy). You're going to need to buy HD cables.

8) The Online system is fractured, and inconcsistent... some of the launch games axed multiplayer entirely because Sony couldn't deliver the libraries.

9) Users can't respond to any of their friends in games.

10) Sony's PS3 OS is bloated, and consumes 3x the resources the 360's OS consumes (which does effect available memory games use).

11) The PS3 will downscale 720p & 1080p HD content to 480p on any HDTV that doesn't support 1080p & 720p (which is a fairly high percentage).

12) Cross platform games are BETTER on the 360 (Call of Duty 3, Tony Hawk, NHL, etc, etc, etc).

13) HD-DVD is doing much better than Blu-ray, and with 360 - gamers can pick up the cheapest and *best* HD-DVD player out now, but PS3 is stuck with Blu-ray and requires *every* user to buy it with the system.

14) PS3 is massively expensive.
 
It appears, if you look on pages 4 and 57 of your manual that your TV will support both 720p and 1080i but only over the DVI plug. For the PS3 you can get an HDMI to DVI plug for about $15 from monoprice.com. If it is true that your TV cannot support HD signals over component then the xbox will over play standard res.

Your manual: http://tv.rca.com/NR/rdonlyres/D165BB61-8CAA-482E-A912-4928E949A372/0/16677400_IB.pdf
 
"The PS3 will downscale 720p & 1080p HD content to 480p on any HDTV that doesn't support 1080p & 720p (which is a fairly high percentage)"

apparently you don't know what hd is. i don't know a single hdtv that will only do 720i or 1080i. they all seem to do some type of progressive display, usually 720p.
unless your talking about an EDTV, and then your talking about something that was popular for a little while, while hdtv was too expensive
 
i think it is just sony's ploy to make you buy a 1080p set, which if you notice...they're flooding the market with several 1080p sets.

sony should have included 1080i compatability but I guess sony just though about their average sony HDTV owner
 
i have a mitsubishi hd tv i got brand new 2 years ago that only does 480i, 480p, and 1080i

and im not really in the mood to spend another $2500 just to get 720p... sony needs to support 1080i
 
yeah, i was about to defend sony on this but realized many CRT HDTVS (which were still available just last year) may not support 720P. The rise of LCD and DLP HDTVs 3 years ago made 720p popular but still leaves a majority of those CRT HDTVs owner behind with the PS3




I can see how some would be upset. It wouldn't cost Sony much to spend the extra time and resources to make sure the PS3 supports 720P.

Lukcly my TV does 720p so it won't affect my decision to buy one (in the next year or so)
 
360 will scale all games to 480p, 720p, 1080i, or 1080p, depending on what you set it at. It also does the same to DVD movies, something the PS3 doesn't do.

Apologize for Sony all you want. The fact is, the 360, a year old console, scales everything like a fucking champ. PS3 is out a year later and can't scale for shit? Nice job Sony.

BTW, way more than 5 TVs in the world can't display 720p. In Europe, 720p is a very recent thing. Most European HDTVs are 1080i.

And plenty of US/Japanese HDTVs can't support 720p either. I'd say at least 10-20% of HDTVs in homes can't support 720p.
 
ok, so if a tv supports 720p but not 1080p then the PS3 games will stay at 720p, not 1080i? is this correct? so, the people with only 1080i and 480p are kinda screwed because sony claimed it would display in 1080i, but it's not? just trying to get facts straight. people with 480p, 1080i, and 720p are fine, while the people with 480p and 1080i are just SOL but shouldn't be?
 
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