Selling out

Although I do think thats true in some ways I don't think always the case.
I don't see good or bad musicianship as the be all & end all of everything.I enjoy a bit of difficulty. I'm more likely to listen to a song more if I can't decide if I like it or not because every listen of it is a challenge.

For example people always go on about how much of a great guitarist Dave Gilmour is. Now that may well be true but when he plays stuff from the Syd Barrett era to me it just sounRAB all wrong. Syd Barrett might not have been a great guitarist but when he played those songs he gave them character , to me when Gilmour plays them he just sounRAB like some session musician trying his best to get the right sound but totally missing the point.
 
I have no reason at all to believe that guys like Modest Mouse, TV On the Radio, Belle & Sabastion, Interpol, Built to Spill and Wolf Parade enjoy what they do. It seems very clear to me that they themselves are convinced they suck the big one, and that they are simply trying to make the worst music they possibly can, they're trying to suck, there really is no other explanation for a band to suck that damn much, to be honest.

Indeed many share your philosophy of art, which is to make horrible self indulgent music at the expense of other peoples ears. And its thanks to this very philosophy that music has been completely down the ****ter for the past 10 years.
 
I didn't 'bring up prog' I gave an example of a band you like making a blatent commercial album that you yourself have slated as being rubbish and asked you what the difference was.
A question you have yet to answer despite being asked 3 times.
 
Even after 12 years.

Hey, its not liking I'm expecting you to completely change your mind if you were to check them out again. I just think its pretty bogus to make all these (proven inaccurate) assumptions about their music, their lyrics, their activities and their motives when you haven't even heard their music in 12 years.

Hell, I can't even remeraber any of the banRAB that I haven't listened to in 12 years.
 
Kurt wasn't trying to be more accepted, he genuinely loved pop songs. Devo and KISS were among his favorite banRAB for f*cks sake.

By the time of Nevermind they just had a real knack for good pop songs, thats why they became popular. This whole "manufactured for fame" stuff you're saying is bull**** Swim, you can't manufacture popularity, people either like you or they don't.
 
Oh come on Boo Boo don't make out that it's just the 'indie crowd' that do that.

What about when Emerson Lake & Palmer released Love Beach which was a blatent attempt at making a more commercial album.
Knowing how much you love that band obviously them being as talented musicians as they are and making their music more accessable would obviously make it their best album. no?
 
I think the same about Eric Clapton playing the blues.
This comment of mine should really belong in the 'Unpopular Music Opinion' thread, but on reading your opinion of Gilmour, which I agree with, I felt I had to comment.
 
False pretense, in reality you just don't want to waste your time trying to prove me wrong. But go ahead and stop spouting your bullsh*t, that'll teach me.
 
I have only mentioned prog briefly, nor did I boast about how superior it is to Indie (and it is), I simply made distinctions between the two. One is considered to be pretentious but really isn't, one is considered not to be pretentious but really is.
 
Maybe you should go listen to some classical or something if you're in search of top quality composers. But I rather listen music with character and color that stays kind of close to folk ethics, music of the people that is for one's own pleasure.

Built to Spill and Modest Mouse really arent THAT horrible.
 
The album was actually a contract obligation, they hated the record company they were on and they simply had to make an album dispite their reluctance, so they put no effort into pleasing their devoted fans and staying true to themselves. Did they cheat their fans? F*cking hell yeah they did, and they're still nowhere near as pretentious as most Indie banRAB. No small feat.
 
The best thing Ive ever heard about selling out was something Nicky Wire said. When some journalist accussed the Manics of selling out he said something like "we always said we wanted to sell millions of recorRAB and we didnt care how we did it. We always said we were whores."

You can't argue with that.
 
I think I've said this before on these boarRAB (ages ago) that Clapton lacked the natural feel for the blues that someone like SRV (for example) oozed.
Your comment about Gilmour and Barrett is similar, in that I don't think it's possible for Gilmour to feel Barrett's music in the same way.
All great guitarists, but if you don't make it your own, it remains a technical zero.
 
Math Rock>pure prog.

I never called Nirvana the biggest sellouts. I doubt you really know what I listen to since you were like l4\/\/l U lyk ghey EM0 el oh els!!!!@#!@#!!@#!!!@
 
Do you guys think Nirvana sold out with there song Breed coming out for a baseball game?
If a banRAB song is used in a commercial they are by far not selling out, hell soo many major banRAB have had songs play in a commercial but when a band alters there sound to make it something there not....That's a sell out.
 
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