Rebirth of the Rebellion - Code Geass R2 Talkback (SPOILERS)

Heh. See, the thing is, no one said the episode was going to suck over the crap fanservice. We just said that it was crap fanservice, and we're not wrong.

On the occasional episode Kallen gets to be awesome, and then she's a vessel for fanservice. I mind that very much, considering that we're basically being told that she's at least as valuable a warrior as Todoh. So could she get the same respect, please?

That's what our problem is.
 
That's the feeling I get from the opening. It definitely feels like they'll team up at one point or another. Who knows? Maybe rescuing Kallen gets put on the back burner while Lelouch tries to get revenge for you-know-who's death and after a while Kallen just gives up hope and finally sides with Suzaku.
 
If Lloyd and Cecile end up together I will bake everybody in this thread a giant cake with a smiley face in the middle. That pairing makes me quite happy.
I'd rather Llloyd with a human than a giant mecha, any day.
 
Not every villain has to have a haunted, bitter, and sad past to be effective and believable. Ali wouldn't have been as effective if he wasn't who he was in 00. Plus 00's concept of no God does not juxtapose itself as a major theme in the series. That was Setsuna's problem. It wasn't something that Mizushima shoved down our throats at each possible moment during the series.
 
Wow. That was rude. Because I think the series has gone well, I'm an idiot? What a great way to win an argument.

And to be fair, while there are a lot of plot twists, this week being a bit more tame compared to others, I do believe majority of them were hard to predict. If we didn't have spoilers from magazines most wouldn't have guessed all of them. Maybe a few, such as Nunally being alive, but definately not all of them. Case in point, a lot of people thought that Marianne would be against Charles believing she died because of that, but then she was revealed to be with him, with V.V. against her.
 
Because Star Wars wasn't a mouthpiece to make one culture feel better about its own xenophobia and war atrocities. Star Wars didn't have a perpetual "don't trust foreigners, woe is us for trusting foreign devils" theme.
 
Good point, and I think that this ties into the moral arabiguity issue. I could understand not stopping for Rivalz in and of itself--everyone was watching, and what could he say that would satisfy him? His position has certainly isolated him. Beyond that though, he also has nothing to say to Kallen when they were alone. Last episode Lelouch was tearing down Charles for neglecting the world for his own designs, and yet in this episode he's acting very distant. Not just on the personal level either. Whatever plans he might or might not have, he sure doesn't seem to be considering the world given his behavior.

Suzaku's participation in all of this notwithstanding, the preview and spoilers for 23 give me hope that Suzaku will stand up to Lelouch here. It seems to me that Lelouch has lost sight of his priorities. I didn't see any goal in Lelouch's mind besides dealing with Schneizel and tearing down Charles' legacy. But after that, what then?
 
While you might not have out right said that, there's been times in which the things you have said strongly suggest that kind of idea. I'm not going to lie, I like your average cute male in anime, but just because a character isn't 'well off in the looks department' doesn't automatically make them terrible.

That sounRAB extremely shallow. A good personality can make anybody beautiful. It's like your saying you wouldn't attempt to fall in love with a stereotypical 'ugly' girl, even if she was willing to devote her life to you.

I don't think HC is moody at all- he's only stating his opinion based off of the way people present themselves in this forum. We don't know you in real life so what you say and how you say it [ie: comments on female breast size] is the only impression we get.
 
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