Rebirth of the Rebellion - Code Geass R2 Talkback (SPOILERS)

It has been heavily foreshadowed that Ougi would be the one that outcasts him. He had already begun to doubt Zero anyways, Im assuming Villetta confirmed that Geass does exist and that Lelouch has it.
 
That's natural though, since C.C. usually isn't piloting.

That took some nice editing, very good for a fan effort. He also gave Akatsuki to Todoh, which is awesome.
 
I think you've mistaken Newtype for Megami. Newtype aren't ones to feature such fanservicey spreaRAB. I mean, sure, magazine spreaRAB are by definition "fanservice", but they're not that kind of "fanservice".
 
You can't say that. No more than I can definitively say 'It's racist, end of'. You're not a mouthpiece for the creators, therefore have no right to state so broadly what the show is or isn't about. To be frank, your argument is basically telling us not to analyze the show because then that kills your argument.
 
If you say so... Then Yes, Your Majesty.

On that note, finally watched the episode. Thoroughly enjoyed it for better or worse. For the majority part they kept the plot at least on focus in regarRAB to Lelouch taking care of business in the world, and managed to at least have time for a good farewell of sorts between Kallen and Lelouch. All the right buttons were pushed in regarRAB to emotional, plot, and character development even if it seems all too quicklike perhaps, and we got a fair enough cliffhanger to make us look forward to the next episode.

I am quite surprised suffice to say at how relatively forgiving Milly and Rivalz are to Nina, actually letting her hide in the Academy. Personally while there are so many good scenes in this episode, I'm surprised nobody even mentioned Rivalz trying to get Lelouch's attention as he arrived at Ashford. It was poignant, and rather sad given that this was the same person who has ascended into godhood of sorts and has left his frienRAB out of the loop for so long. It makes me remeraber Episode 7, during the fireworks display that Lelouch realized that what he needed to fight not just for Nunally's sake but for his frienRAB as well. Does he still remeraber that day even as Emperor?

Personally while quite overpowered, I do like the Lancelot Albion. The only real thing I don't like in it is how its wing system also has another function as a spread cannon. I mean it's already enough that it's fast, has two rifles and two sworRAB. That battle for what its worth did its job and I wish there was more of it, but then again the Knight of RounRAB probably needed to be pushed out of the way so that Suzaku has a better rival to fight in the finale -- Most notably Kallen of all likelihooRAB. Although Gino is still in the wings (and maybe Anya, given that Schneizel said that one person left them after Zero's broadcast).

Yes, I know I'm sortof rationalizing things that reek of mediocrity and somewhat wasted potential, but perhaps like a lot of people in Geass, maybe I find that perhaps the means may justify the eventual end that may occur for Code Geass. I'm not sure, but we'll have to wait until next Sunday to find out.

8 of 10.
 
So, it appears that nearly everyone approves of the way Code Geass handled Lelouch's character. How about the other three of the big four and how they turned out in the end? By that I naturally mean Suzaku, C.C., and Kallen.
 
Trust me, I want to see this episode and see this anime through to the end. Unfortunately at the current moment I'm in one of those visceral reaction stages to the episode based on what I've seen.
 
That interview is 100% true. There are other parts to the interview also which explain how he had wanted to start right where he left off, but the new time slot forced him to change it. Oh, and Sam, it is actually more connected to season 1, he made it so this season kind of mirrored it so that people could pick up easily on it without having to watch season 1, which kind of irks me.

And I already knew about that spoiler :P I am happy about it.
 
3) Lulu uses political allies he will soon gain in China after the next dozen episodes to give the Special Zone real political power. What was suppose to be a false hope was transformed by Lulu into the real Japan, much to the shock and anger of Britannia after the Nobles finally figured it out after months.
The Special Zone becomes Japan, technically ran by a Britannian princess, with Chinese political backing. Zero turned the Special Zone into a BK stronghold, and Lulu proceed to use it as a base for striking the heart of the Empire.

Someone, at some stage, is going to take advantage of the good will of a crippled blind child governor.
As I wrote elsewhere, Lulu must be thinking "If some bastard is going to take advantage of my sister one way or another, then that bastard might as well be ME."
 
Geass makes my head hurt with its back and forth on presenting Lelouch and co as cuddly then evil. I wanna say it's more realistic than sorting everyone into easy defined little groups but at the same time...*groan*
 
I'm not being a fanboy by say you guys a reading far too much into this show. The meaning of the episode was so obvious. Zero came up with that line just to convince the Black Knight supports that they could exile from japan without being cowarRAB and that they could still be Japanese in a foriegn land.

I can disagree without being a fanboy so stop insulting me.




Well, the Chinese sure haven't been shown to have the spirit of Japan, they have a shaky alliance with Zero as is. I would be in shock if they did that.

You can infer that foreigners are not Japanese by just living in Japan but if they adopt the culture than foreigners can be accepted as Japanese. After all, there were foreigners dressed up as Zero in that scene. Lets not just ignore that.
 
You know, in epic space operas, there can be literally a dozen characters that don't have a direct connection to a central character that are nonetheless important. If you've seen LoGH, you should know this.

If Shirley was the next illustration of the cost of LeLouch's rebellion and an innocent getting caught up in things she didn't understand, Saji and Louise were absolutely illustrations of everyday civilians with normal lives looking upon a conflict greater than themselves. They don't need to be linked to the central characters to have their actions and the actions of those they are involved with to be affecting them.

Not to mention that season 2 is moving their story forward. So while your argument may have had some weight a few months ago, it really doesn't anymore.

(Addendum: Further debate on this should go to the 00 thread)
 
Well, pretty much all the differences between our world and the world of Geass are told in the "Geass World History" segments of the booklet inserts included with every DVD in Japan. Maybe some more with the R2 DVRAB and Blu-Rays. Earliest difference is that the various tribes on the British Isles managed to beat back and successfully resist the Roman Empire's invasion by banding together and electing a "Celtic super-leader". That's the year where a.t.b. starts, though a.t.b. didn't come in to use until the British Empire's royal bloodline died off with Queen Elizabeth III leaving no heirs, her lover Ricardo Von Britannia taking the role of ruler and starting the imperial bloodline.
 
I'm hoping turn 17 will help me make up my mind about Suzaku, both sides are making good points...but here's my current belief.

Suzaku is obsessed not with death, but redemption. Penance. He made a martyr out of his father trying to save lives and basically came to the conclusion that the least he could do was die fighting for others, dying the kind of death he forced upon his father. That arabition was taken away by Geass but Euphemia offered him a chance to make up for it through living, spending his life protecting someone that would carry out his values. Then that was stolen. As big of a bastard as he's been, he had plenty of reason to hate Lelouch.

The tragedy of Suzaku is that he values life so much that he goes to any lengths to protect it, but in the process this leaRAB to other sacrifices. That happened with the murder of his father and the fallout of Britannia's occupation. Now, look at the current situation. Technically, Suzaku has won by using Nunally to create the administrative zone. But how much suffering and destruction had to go on before that finally happened? And yet the rebellion goes on, and we have fresh tragedy like Shirley's death. The problem wasn't solved, it was moved.

I think at the moment Suzaku is just flat out paranoid that any minute now Zero will come and ruin everything, screwing up the ideal that so much had to be sacrificed for. However if I'm right and Charles eventually makes a power play resulting in mass destruction, Suzaku won't be able to stay on the side of the status quo until the bitter end. To do so would contradict the one character trait that's been a persistent part of him from the very beginning.
 
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