*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia N97

kinda related to 3d hardware question, but does anyone know why when we load the facebook link/app on the 5800 (which is really the iphone version), and when you click a link, the page scrolls sideways, but its soooo slow? its meant for the iphone, which is fast and smooth. but on 5800 (and n97 i presume), its slow. its certainly capable, since other transition effects are fast and smooth. but is this something related to lack of hardware 3d?
 
do you want porn ? or a video that helps you make an informed decision on a phone ? sex sells but don't ever become distracted from the thing they are trying to sell you . :p
 
people arent really talking about the touchscreen only the keyboard :/

i want this phone but i need some people to talk about how responsive the screen is compared to the 5800 and iphone..... please anybody?
 
That's exactly what's wrong with the NA Cell phone industry, everywhere else in the world, you can get almost every phone on every carriers, and doesn't have to deal with this switching back and forth business cause of a phone that's on just one carrier and not the other. I'll be happy when i'm back in HK, where i don't have to worry about not able to get the phone i like.
 
Considering the fact that Eldar reviewed a prototype that still had the orange backlight, I'm considering your link moot. It's black.

Wait, what's this? Picture from a couple weeks ago?

nokia-n97-review-06.jpg


Hold on...phone call...

"Hello? Oh hi, Jerk Store..."
 
The same amount of money I would save from those guys would go into priority next day shipping on whichever website I order, lol, I cannot wait 1-2 weeks :S

I'm gonna try to get it before Blaxx, and send him a picture of it, lol
 
I do thinks it is fair, because the original question was simply which browser was better, it was all about what can be done with the browser. That said, while the comparison is much closer if you decided to handicap the iPhone 3GS by not considering a jailbroken 3GS v N97 I still believe the 3GS still wins. Rendering speed, rendering the page faithfully, cut/copy/paste any web content, auto fill-in and easy kinetic scrolling through the page on a capacitive screen really sends it over the top. The iphone 3GS is second-to-none with browsing experience. That's not to say that the N97 doesn't have a great browser itself, it's just second best, that all :)




Sure you may have a rocker, but you can't tell me it wouldn't be nice to have pinch to zoom; again, a rocker not a bad solution, but it's still second best to pinch to zoom :)

I thought the subject matter was simply the browser? But since you brought up other things, lets talk :buddies:

N97, wins handily in the camera department, no contest :)

Removable v non-removable battery, never been a problem for me, in fact I like that the 3GS is one solid piece :)

QWERTY on the N97 blows! I actually prefer the virtual keyboard on the 3GS! Why? Simply because the auto correct is so great! It is about 90% accurate. The buttons on the N97 are tiny, the ones in the middle where unevenly dimly lit and no QWERTY in portrait. That was one reason I sent back my N97, I could type much, much faster 3GS than on my N97. Matter of opinion I know, but this was the reality for me :)

With double the RAM of the N97, the 3GS on edge is still much faster than the N97. It is only fair to compare the current flagship to each other. It's funny that Apple's year-old flagship is still faster than Nokia's current flagship in the youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeA12T1BoNc:lol: Add in browsing on wifi and the 3GS blows the N97 out of the water in rendering speed :)




OBEX, N97 handily wins, 3GS can't even compete.
5MP, N97 handily wins.
Physical vs virtual keyboard: I'll take my virtual auto-correcting keyboard over those tiny unevenly lit, non-auto correcting buttons any day!
Mass storage? Yup, 3GS got it.
Battery: N97 wins in battery life, but having a non-removable battery never bothered me in the least, personal prefernce I suppose. In fact, I enjoy having one solid unit:cool:
The 3GS multitasks much much much better than than N97! With double the CPU/RAM of the N97, backgrounder is a joy to use on the 3GS! All those widgets suck precious amounts of system resources from the small bit the N97 has. Leaving one or two things in the background seriously lags the N97, not a problem for my 3GS! I bet I could render a page faster with two or three apps in the background than a N97 with nothing running! Not even close 3GS wins handily!
Customization is a breeze with WinterBoard!
MMS not a 3GS issue, it's an AT&T issue, not fair to peg that failure on the 3GS.
Reception has never been an issue for me. I drive an ambulance in LA, meaning I'm in and out of hospitals all the time and I've never had any issues. Granted when I had the N97, it didn't have any issue either, the phones tie on reception.
Iphone does have voice guided GPS or turn-by-turn and on that larger screen it works wonderfully!
You talking flash in browser or flash for camera? Either way, N97 wins in both those departments.
Why would you need another browser with Safari? Skyfire on N97=FAIL! The low CPU/RAM cannot handle it, plain and simply it's jerky and crappy! Safari>Opera In fact, in most Opera reviews, the comparison normally pits Opera as "how Safari like" it is. I'll just use the real-deal thank youi :lol: Plus not cut/copy/past of browser content, only in text input felids, N97 FAIL :lol: ...P.S. who would of thought the iPhone would of won in a cut/copy/paste debate??? :lol:
I don't know what Media Monkey is or does so I cannot comment.
Capacitive>>>Resistive. N97 FAIL If your on a motorcycle and you need to use your phone...STOP and use it for Gods sake! :lol: I mean, you have to pull over, take your helmet off, and get your phone out why would it be so hard to take a glove off too :befuddled
Speaking of Hacking, S60 is a nightmare in that department! Signed vs unsigned and tons and tons of compatibly problems! 3GS offers Cydia, one simply, efficient and safe place to get all your hacked stuff. The amount of crap you have to trudge through to get something working on the N97 is ridiculous! 3GS is so, so easy! Open Cydia>find what you want>install>whala you have it! No hassle!
Also, you guys left out a few things. The Apps store pawns the crap out of OVI :lol: Netflix client, ORB client, DataViz, movie show times, ebay, paypal, etc.
The email client on the N97 is atrocious! I'll take my good ole Yahoo with push any day!
What about push notifications? The N97 forces you to leave apps constantly running soaking up what little CPU/RAM you have on that thing, not so with the 3GS. The AP alerts me, without having to leave it running :)
How is flick scrolling on the N97? What? You can't? Wow that sucks, sorry :lol:



Yes, LAST YEARS MODEL. Compare flagship to flagship! The N97 cannot even beat Apple's last year model :lolup:
Yes the N97 wins in the flash department, but if you think flash alone is all the matters in a web browser, well sorry for you than. Consider, rendering speed, how faithful the browser actually renders the page, cut/copy/paste of web content, scrolling on a capacitive screen, pinch to zoom and I'd say Safari is much, much, more functional. In fact, if flashlite is what is important than I'd say the N97 is the toy here, while the 3GS is the functional work horse :p

All things considered, the N97 is a great phone, that said, the N97 is still the runner up to the 3GS :buddies:
 
I still don't understand why nokia hasn't released exact figures for the n and e series what are they hiding?

approximately 5 million Nokia Nseries ( so under 5 million?)
over 3 million Nokia Eseries (over 3 million?

*( what is the difference between sold and shipped?)

two questions:
How many n series did nokia sell the previous quarter and the same quarter a year earlier?
How many models constitued as N-series?

(Separated e and n series because they do not share the same features.)
Rim 7.8 million
N-series 5 million
apple 3.9 million
e-series 3 million

But you have to admit this is disappointing even if you count the e and series together they have only sold 200,000 more smart phones than rim has not to mention this is globally and not just within the US.


http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...q1-sold-twice-as-man-phones-as-apple-2009054/
 
Why is it that Nokia has soo many websites under their belt but people NEVER find out abt it.

I probably would've never stubled upon the ideas project if ming387 hadnt posted it.
 
this is the real pricing
*Requires new two-year AT&T wireless service contract, sold separately to qualified customers; credit check required; must be 18 or older. For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB). Visit www.wireless.att.com for eligibility information. In CA, MA, and RI, sales tax is collected on the unbundled price of iPhone.
**Up to 2x faster compared with iPhone 3G.
?MMS support from AT&T coming in late summer.
??Pre-authorization does not guarantee iPhone availability at an Apple Retail Store. iPhone is sold on a first-come, first-served basis.
Compass reliability may be affected by usage conditions, such as nearby magnetic fields.
Some features require the iPhone 3.0 Software Update, which will be available for free download on June 17.
Some features and services are not available in all areas. See your carrier for details.
Prices are U.S. Apple Online Store prices as of June 8, 2009, do not include taxes or shipping, are subject to change, and are listed in U.S. dollars.


NOw please tell me does the n97 seem expensive now
 
Haven't seen the screen on N97 yet but how can you say that the screen is nowhere as good as N85. I would say the opposite actually. So what that N85 has an oled screen...it's too pixelated in comparison with N97.
 
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