*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia N86 8MP

Just bought this phone and have two problems

first of all is some kind of strange lines when focusing with the camera. the lines disappears when the photo is taken. Is this a hardware or software problem?

the second problem is that the vibrator is very weak, its like 1/10th of the vibrator on the 5800 and the N95. is this normal??
 
In this picture it is easy to explore the N86's ability to resolve detail and again the biggest problem I see is compression artifacts. The color and lighting are right on, the resolution and sharpness seems to have been ruined by compression. kinda gives it that water color look, though at a normal size it is a great photograph and the autofocus even picked the dog. :buddies:
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Here is a video I took of me running with my dog so you could get an idea.
Roxy running
The point I am trying to argue for is that this is a fantastic camera phone available everywhere now for an affordable price, everyone should get one.
Then Nokia can fix the firmware........
 
Im glad the phone is out but from what i've read the latest firmware with face detection makes this phone buggy as hell. people are complaining of laggy menus and OS response, as well as random crashes lockups where you have to pull the battery in order to reboot the phone again. I think my e63 is going to be my last s 60 phone. maemo is looking better every day, just wish it had nam 3g
 
It doesn't wobble hardly at all. Even after all this time. I got it from Dell, when they first started selling smartphones back in early summer of 07. This phone has held up extremely well.
 
For somebody who buys and replaces phones regularly--which probably represents a disproportionate amount of users on this forum--I can see how the N86 could seem a little disappointing. If you've already dropped a couple benjamins on a top-class smartphone, it's not surprising that you'd want the next one you buy to be really revolutionary to justify the pricetag. Why isn't Nokia leading the pack with features and design as it once did, you might be compelled to wonder. Why should I pay $600 for a phone that seems only marginally better (or even slightly worse in some areas) than the one I have now?

To which I would say, well, don't buy it then!

However, for somebody who DOESN'T pick up every new phone model as soon as it hits the street--which, believe it or not, probably represents the largest part of Nokia's (or anyone's) customer base--the N86 is an incredibly appealing device. The key is really positioning. After a series of relatively safe, incremental improvements since the game-changing N95, I believe Nokia has finally arrived at a new N-series phone with no significant faults.

The N96 was bulky, had crummy battery life and no USB charging. The N85 had "flush" keys rather than buttons and numerous build quality concerns. Now the N86 enters the market, and not only has it apparently addressed all of these issues, it also brings with it some very nice new features to sweeten the deal. The mechanical lens cover is great, the active kickstand is nifty, and the OLED screen sounds like a very nice improvement. On top of that, it carries from past N-series phones the various handy perks (non-proprietary plugs, 3.5mm audio jack w/ TV out, dedicated media keys, FM transmitter) that some other smartphone makers STILL haven't figured out (I'm looking at you, Sony Ericsson).

Some reviewers have accurately identified a few areas where the N86 could use improvement, but unlike issues with the aforementioned N95 sucessors, I don't think these are show stoppers. The 8MP camera might not be top of the line anymore, and might need some software tweaks to realize its full potential, but we've seen from various comparisons that it performs quite admirably in most photo-taking conditions. Not having xenon flash as at least an option is slightly disappointing, but I'm more pleased that the lens's greater sensitivity means I won't NEED to use flash as often. Given the battery and space demands of xenon, it's not surprising that Nokia left it out... and if that means I won't be able to capture a perfect shot of El Chupacabras raiding my henhouse at 3am, well, so be it.

If you're a Nokia devotee who already owns one of their very popular previous models, be it the N95 or the N82, you might well want to hold off on upgrading until (or if) Nokia comes out with another phone that is truly top of the line in every respect. But if, like me, you haven't bought a smartphone in quite a while and are looking to get something with ALL the vital features in a single neat little package, the N86 seems to be the only game in town right now. Or at least, it will be, whenever they announce a US release date. :(
 
The sale of this phone is mind boggling.
Amazon seems to of stopped selling the US version.
Mobile city lists the 25th as the arrival date and is still pre-order.
Nobody on ebay seems to have the US version anymore.
And nokiausa still has it as pre-order.

WTF, does nokia not learn anything from apple?
I know this is not on the iphone scale of things, but come on, pick a date and follow through, the guessing game is ridiculous.
 
You can read gsmarena.com review, N86 is capable camera, but not the best among other 8MP in the market. I've HongKong firmware on i8910 and video recording at 720p is very smooth, Pixon12 has the best LED flash for video recording, then N86 and then i8910, i8910's flash is the weakest. You can check out videos at youtube to compare video qualities. Nokia marketed N86 as camera phone, heck Nokia even tried to prove us wrong that N86 takes better flash shots then N82's xenon by doing official comparison, but a camera advertised phone should have more manual controls and extra camera features like Pixon12, it's not about megapixels, the lens and shutter speed on pixon12 is mind blowing. I think only Samsung W880 will beat Pixon12 in near future, Sony satio put up a good fight and has better video recording compared to Pixon12,end of the day it all depends on user needs, N86 makes up for it's shortcomings by being a smartphone unlike pixon12, out of three, I will go for i8910, smartphones+great camera.
 
Pros:
- It feels solid in my hand. It?s not too light nor does it feel like cheap plastic.
- Battery is good for me. It charges very fast.
- Interface is very fast and responsive.
- Multitasking has no problems. Copy and paste works.
- Media keys are intuitive and useful for media.
- Volume can be turned up very loud if you have bad hearing like me.
- AMOLED screen is very clear to view indoors even on lowest light sensor setting. When going outdoors turn the light sensor higher.
- SIP/VoIP works.
- I like the appearance, but not everyone does.
- FM radio comes in clear for me unlike older radios I?ve used. I think it has to do with the long cord of my headphones which acts the antenna. I like how it lists which song is playing or details about the station.

Cons:
- 10% volume increment
- D-pad is hard to use at first, but I?ve gotten use to it. Clip your nails before using it.
- Antenna placement is horrendous. I can have full signal with it lying on the desk. When I hold in my hands in a certain spot the signal bars go to almost zero. Where in the hell is the antenna, so I don?t cover it? It?s somewhere at the bottom.
- For an Nseries, Audio quality is terrible. If you listen to iPod with iPod in-ear headphones, you may not complain. Maybe it?s not terrible, but it?s not good. I?m using mid to high-end headphones.
- Camera button is not easy to press at first. It takes time getting use to pressing it. This may be what?s causing blurring for people.
- Vibrate is weak.

I do not have v20. This is a major fail from Nokia. I have product code 0590552: N86 8MP RM-485 North America US Athlon NA Default. White balance indoors sometimes is yellowish from the flash depending on the environment. WB has been said to be better in v20. Macro mode in v11 is bad as my camera is not focusing for close-up shots, but I?ve read it's good in v20.

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