*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia N86 8MP

yeh I guess that's your only option, look on google for V11 or if its possible If someone knows how to obtain the file I could upload the one I have but Im thinking they are region specific firmwares as I cannot even get v20 as my operator has not released it?.
 
Is the black version the only one that's going to be available? Because that's the only listed color in the specs page. The black version looks really bland in a boring way, but the white version is bland, but in a clean and nice way.
 
everyone has different preferences for a perfect phone.....

Anyways for me, if the N86 had a xenon flash, was a bar phone, and a better keypad it would be perfect for me.. I dont particularly care about the noise cancel stuff myself..
 
I nearly canceled my order yesterday and got the N95 8gb. Luckily AMEX declined the charge and luckily brought me to my senses. Buying a 2 year old phone wouldn't have been nice.

Honestly I just hope that the N86 ships before november. I think I can wait that long. I have a phone to hold me over for now, but I just want to consolidate all my devices. The N86 will finally let me do that. It'll be my first smartphone and I'm looking forward to it. But I think I'd rather have a buggy device that is usable than waiting for the device for 2 months. (I'm sure I'd be saying the opposite if I had a buggy device...)

Hopefully we'll see the N86 ship soon. I just wanna get my mits on it. :buddies:
 
Anyone out there who is still on the fence about this phone interested in a review?

I should have one up in a few days.

All I can say is, I am thoroughly impressed by the Camera on this phone - WOW!!!!
 
RF quality is good despite of having the antenna at the bottom of the phone again..

So far I had 1 dropped call.. Also bare in mind that I only stay on UMTS mode. That could be a factor.

Flashlight? as in torch? No.. If you mean Flash Lite as in Adobe Flash then Yes.
 
To be blunt, I have been waiting for a properly built N series phone since the N95. Build quality has been Nokia's biggest weakness when it comes to their N series lineup. The N86 may be nothing ground breaking, but I for one, am pretty stoked.
 
Have you considered the N900. That would be an easy way to blow $600. It's the only phone that tempts me right now, other than the N86.

The N97 to me seems pointless. S60 5th edition is the lamest of all the touch interfaces. It's obviously a desparate hold over to keep customers and not look completely irrelevant, while Nokia gets Maemo going.

On the other hand, I have to hand it to Nokia. For being the last ones to the table with a serious touch driven device, they've come up with what seems like it will be the best platform. Since Maemo is just Debian Linux and competely open, the N900 will be the first phone that can truly claim to be a phone that is a computer in the desktop computer sense. Of course WebOS and Android are Linux underneath, and even the iPhone is ultimately based on a version of Unix. But they're crippled and controlled in proprietary ways and have to be jail broken and all that kind of crap. Maemo's just going to be an OS like any other that you can do what you want with it. Run real Firefox, OpenOffice, thousands of different Linux applications. I think Maemo is going to be a true water shed platform.

And it will likely put the iPhone to shame (I know, famous last words). The only reason I can explain there not being more buzz currently around the N900 is because it's too much of a paradigm shift for people to really understand. Either that, or the dumbed down, crippled, "we'll make the decisions for you" type devices are what most people actually want.

Still, I like the N86 as the last greatest S60 device. And since I don't have an N82, the camera on the N86 is pretty tempting. But the N900 is just around the corner. The only downside may be that as the first Maemo phone it could be buggy. But I read one reviewer with a pre-production N900 has been trying as hard as he can to get it to crash and has not been able to. That's not surprising, I suppose, with Debian as the underlying system. Anyway, I would not for one second consider the N97 over the N900. That's like choosing a S60/Touch monstrosity that was never meant to be, over the future.
 
Maybe the question should be how long will it take to hit a certain price? Obviously, depending on how long you're willing to wait, it will just keep getting cheaper and cheaper as newer devices are released. Or maybe a good question is, how low will the price go while it's still available new from a major retailer? And after that how low will it go for new on eBay?

There's so much attention now on smart phones with touch based large screen interfaces (iPhone, Pre, Droid, TP2, N97, N900, etc.) I wonder if the N86 price will just drop really quickly. It already seems to be dropping faster than previous similar devices like the N82 and N95. The Nokia dual-slider devices just don't occupy the market space of latest most innovative phone anymore.

I especially wonder how the release of the N900 will effect the N86 price. I realize the N900 is a very different device. But the N900 definitely seems to have captuered the slot of the latest hottest most innovative Nokia phone. A big part of the market for the N86 (and predecessors like the N95) were the gadget geeks anyway. A sizable chunk of them have to have shifted their attention to the N900.

Anyway, I think it's may be worth waiting at least a couple more weaks, until after the Droid and N900 and N97 mini come out. There may by a price drop, once they suck even more attention away from the N86. But that's just my speculation.
 
Night shots are challenging even for SLRs, I know this first hand. The built in flash while likely 20-30 times more powerful than the LED on these phones and even with a lens and sensor about 5-10 times the size these phone cameras struggles in night scenes. The automatic modes tend to ramp up the ISO and make the pictures look grainy, yet when printed the pics are fine. It is said that even a cheap Nikon D40 at 800 ISO is the same graininess as a film camera shooting ISO 400 film.

If you are shooting a bright stage at night then obviously a flash is useless and you can actually get very good shots even from the N95 without a flash but that doesn't count as a situation that a flash can help. I've actually shot great pictures and video of well lit stages and performances with the N95 at night. In a situation where a flash can help, Xenon murders LED. That can be proven just by taking an N95 and N82 out to take pictures at night. A flash can really only help when you shoot objects less than 8-10 feet away even with Xenon on a point and shoot. An LED would need to be within 3 feet of the subject to really help matters. That is the situation that a flash helps and I'd imagine that given it is a night portrait situation, that most people carrying cameras tend to shoot those kind of shots. If you try to shoot a night landscape shot, even a Nikon D700 with a nice f/1.8 prime lens will need a tripod.

If your subject is 15 feet away, the LED will be absolutely useless, while a Xenon will at least help a little bit. At least it has a shot with a high ISO to freeze motion. But still there is very little wiggle room in these phone cameras optically. They get very noisy very fast.
 
I hate to use a pun when it's not really intended, but josesxi you're really comparing apples to oranges. Apple is the exception to the rule. Virtually every major phone manufacturer is exceedingly vague and inaccurate with their release dates.
 
First off, BG is a smug [expletive] so I can care less about what he or any of his cronies have to say about anything.

I watched Noah's(Phonedog) video preview of the N86 @ MWC and he said it was a solid-feeling device so I don't know. We'll all have to wait for the production models to hit the shelves.



As per Nokia, the N86 brings a wide angle lens and variable apertures(or something to that effect) which means better low light photos plus a "third generation(whatever that's supposed to mean)" dual LED flash. The N86 also includes a kickstand, an AMOLED 2.6" screen and 8GBs built-in plus MicroSD support.
 
Yeah it will never be better or even as good as a Xenon flash but I hope they managed to do something special with this. From what I've read so far, the camera is better optimized for low-light situations and the flash is more intense than previous dual LED phones.
 
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