*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia N86 8MP

Naah, they are waiting for us compulsive gadget geeks with new N97's to wear out our 30-day return periods, after which they will make it available for "pre-order", milking us out of our hard-earned cash yet once more.

And the story repeats itself.
 
Yeah, I don't buy that analogy. For all pratical purposes the iPhone, Pre, G1 are all smartphones, it's silly to insist on calling them pdas just to pretend they're trying to do something different. And there is way more real differentiation between types of cars than there is between phones. Phones are rapidly moving in the direction of every phone having to try to cram every feature possible into the same phone. That's exactly what the iPhone, et al, demonstrated; that it can be a jack of all trades and on most fronts be better than anything that came before it. With the exception of camera technology (for the time being), the race is basically on for everyone to provide the phone that does everything the best. Especially in the domain of high end phones like the N86. Indeed, until the iPhone, Pre, G1, came along it was the likes of the N95, N80, etc., that dominated precisely this domain of phones that cram every possible feature in and are "multimedia computers," as sr1329 notes. The N86 is just one of the latest in this series. But these high end S60 phones simply got surpassed on most smart-phone fronts (video, music, web, email).

By the way, here's Nokia's press release for the N95 when it first came out in 2007: http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1113533.If that doesn't describe exactly what the iPhone, Pre, and Android phones are trying to be then I don't know what does. It's ironic that Nokia may have gotten this idea first, but quickly had its technology surpassed by others.


Okay, I don't know in what sense the Pre or G1 could not be described as a multimedia phone with a physical keypad. Except for the camera, they cover most multimedia features well enough for most users. And are you really saying that the great feature that the N86 has that differentiates it from the iPhone, Pre, G1 is that it has a numeric keypad and is "regular looking"?


What?? It's impossible for anyone to say why they're interested in this phone because they don't own it yet? Do you think people just buy things randomly, having no idea what they are? I for one usually have a reason why I buy something. I don't just close my eyes and grab things off the shelf. Why is it such a big deal to ask what people like about the N86 other than the camera?

Anyway, I take it by your non-response and the lack of any other responses that no one actually has any reason, other than the camera, that they're interested in the N86.
 
Use the memory card for everything except some applications. Phone memory is limited, so save it for the applications that are forced to install on the phone memory(nokia messaging for example) or applications that go faster on the memory(google maps)



It'll be out next week for the NAM phones.
 
Just came back from a little "vacation" in which I had little access to tech news, and I was expecting the N86 to be available for purchase all over the place.
I was shocked to see that it hasn't been released yet. Went to the Nokia store and it is not on display there either.
So I walked two blocks to RSExpirience on Madison Ave, where the N86 has been on sale for weeks, and played with it for 10 minutes.
First thing I noticed, it is too small for my taste, why not make it bigger and put a 2'8 or even a 3'0 screen on this phone? They're just wasting that awesome OLED screen with a 2'6 display.
Another thing you'll notice: IT IS HEAVY!(149g) like it is full of lead.
This might be a problem for some folks but I actually like it. There is nothing I hate more than a hollow, light brick as a phone.
Overall I liked it. I will get the white NAM for sure.
 
I THINK we need to see real world phots and pics of the 2 n82 w xenon and the n86 with its wider lens and 3rd edition led. :buddies:
 
I just noticed this on my N86 last night too! I was so happy to see that the design of the cover is different from that of the N97. Fingers crossed this means the N86 won't suffer from the same scratches!
 
If there are specifics to the white model, then I apologize...but I do not recall the post above my post or any posts on the previous three pages giving specifics to the release of the white model smart !@#!
 
I didn't mean that the N86 doesn't have SIP. It gives you the option to change SIP settings so I would assume Nokia didn't leave anything out-- but Truphone hasn't quite caught up to the N86 yet. I don't use Gizmo, sorry, but I do use Skype via Nimbuzz and that's worked as well as on the N82.

To be honest I never understood why people hated the N82 keypad. I loved it. Still do. The N86's keys ARE flatter, which has slowed me down a bit because the N82's keys took less effort to press (plus they're situated closer together), but I wouldn't say I'm having trouble with the N86 keys, exactly. Just takes some practice. They feel quite satisfying to press, actually.
 
Nice review Finaldecision. Can you compare the vibrate strength with the n85 - the n85 probably had the strongest vibrate I've ever seen - does the N86 vibrate as strongly?
 
Yep...both of mine went back as well...I really wanted to like the phone, but it just isn't possible to take a picture without blur where my E75/N95/N80 wouldn't even flinch. It's a bad joke that the phone is that sensitive to that slight of a movement-
 
That is "by design". My n95 does that too, when you hook up to USB it dismounts the memory card from the phone and allows the PC access to the memory card, bascially using the phone as a card reader. When you disconnect its like reinserting the memory card into the phone and garmin's auto run kicks in asking if you want to run the app.
 
Indeed, as I have said Xenon is superior (in this case, mainly for its ability to freeze a subject versus LED blur). Tripod / stabilization would help, but not real world realistic. Its an all round question, xenon has +ve and -ve points.

But I was pleasantly surprised (and have noticed it on other images) that there's a big jump forward in terms of LED flash performance. For me that gets too good enough given some of the other benefits of LED, but I'll be the first to say I appreciate that is not the case for everyone.

Enough moonlighting on HoFo I think :)
 
Man, I agree with a lot of the things you have to say, but, are you sure you want to go with WM? Of all the smartphone offerings available, I find WM the most tedious to use. Just the lag of the phone app is enough to make me want to toss any WM phone in the river.
 
Not being able to sync my opera shortcuts, not being able to edit the search engines and not being able to use the phone's own editing features such as cut and paste, collectively make a deal breaker for me.

But it looks and feels great, and as soon as they implement some of the features i miss i'll be back onto it :-)
 
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