+ Nokia N95; Carl Zeiss; Tessar Optic; 5 MPX - Video and Image Samples

Well, i've seen no prove so far that K800 is better than N73 from you, and neither i've seen prove that you owned N73 as you claim, You never posted exactly same pictures with your K800, it wouldn't be a problem otherwise, so i see no crediability in your posts at all, it's all talk, heck, you don't even want to admit obvius things.. All you do is yelling "shut up, you don't own K800 or N73, you're ignorant, so you can't judge'. That is stupid.
On the other hand, i do have true comparo pics, and in most of them N73 wins, that's why i don't really care what Playerkill & Co. says, i prefer to believe my eyes.

To be honest, i didn't understand what you mean by those quotes about red.

I didn't try your advice on Google, and i really dont care what is in Google search, even if you are right, there might be dozens of reasons.
Take a look here, and try to be honest, i know it's hard for you. Do you see red in first pic, and look on the ground, what picture is more detailed?





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I'm not causing this thread to run, i didn't ask you (or anyone else) to answer me. All i did was posting image that clearly is better then original LG image, than SE fans started all this senseless talk.
And you are utterly wrong if you think that you could back up your what you claim. Your logic seems to be all talk, exsuses for LG and SE. I (as everyone else) believe my own eyes, and they clearly show me that N73 is a winner.

Little example
Pictures of 6230i were washed out and blurry in comparison to SE K750, and i don't remember anyone making lame excuses that "it's the way it should be, it's too much post processing that SE does, in PS i'll make it better", yet now, when advantage of N73 is obvious, i here that BS from SE fans.
 
Well, who knows. May be you don't know how to handle your N73 properly or something.
May be if you would not be that lazy you would have known how to make better pics, not to mention, you woud have known a point of this discussion before entering here.
And as for fanboyisch, don't compliment yourself. All you did was bla bla bla, typical Sony Ericsson fanboy talk who are always in denial...
 
1. OK, i meant that my eglish is not that good to make proper discussion, if i offended some one, i appologize, didnt mean to.
2. That's the problem, you don't see red, to me it's obvious. And no, there is no red in N73 to be 'evident'
3. I know that i low light conditions Nokia is not good. But is SE good? Show me a picture of the same place without flash.
And i know people that used to have K800, and now have N73 and they think its camera is much superior, why should i believe you, you didn't even post proper samples? What's the point of your 'i owned both'? If you did, than it shouldn't be a problem to make picture of same place at same time. Otherwise, you simply cant' back up what you claim.
 
N number of posts after and you still don't get it.

1) You are the only one who i have spoken so far that have complained about the redness in the K800i. Even if it is there, it's not as evident as the N73's bluish haze which gets more and more horrendous as lighting conditions falter (see the picture of the lantern festival I posted). If you fail to see that, I have nothing to say.

2) In low light conditions, there is no bluish haze on the K800i, as illustrated through my close up pic of the crab cake, with was taken without a flash. Even if a flash was required, it makes no sense to compare no flash pics of the K800i with the N73's no flash pics, since the Xenon flash is one of the selling points of the K800i, and the entire point of the flash is so that it increases the performance (and also versatility) of the K800i camera under low light conditions.



Yes, there are those people, but those people aren't here in this discussion, so in terms of this thread, it doesn't matter and you can't speak for them. And I already stated the why I posted the pictures I did. You missed the entire point and purpose of the picture samples. Refer back to my previous post. Reading is a virtue. For your convenience, here it is again:



I didn't take side by side pictures because I wasn't trying to do a professional review and those were pictures that I took when I went out.

Notice how also no one really wanted to bash the N73, but just pointed out its flaws which in some people's opinions are more fatal than the K800i. You don't have to agree, but on the same token you don't have to get all worked up at the fact that people dont' hold your opinion.

And perhaps we should get back on topic.
 
That's a huge amount of space! I'm going to have to free up some serious space on my harddrive or start burning N95 videos directly to DVD's. With that kind of consumption it's really time for Nokia to come through figure out how to support 4gs....or start throwing in 8gb harddrives w/ these puppies. Of course the cost of an N95 w/ an 8gb hardrive would be absolutely disturbing.
 
Ignorant in the fact that you can't form credible opinions of the photos since you weren't the person taking them and remain oblivious about how the pictures were taken and under what environmental conditions (true colour, lighting, etc.), yes.



If you dont' understand, then why are you arguing.



Dozens of reasons about what? The fact that there's an invisible blue haze around us that everyone on the internet can't see can't see but somehow the N73 can capture? Or are you talking about the fact that everyone's eyes on the internet are messed up and so the over processed image is the true rendition of whatever is being captured?






Like I said, you can pull all the pictures in the world from the internet and say whatever you want, but without first hand experience, you really can't judge. To me, I would say that there's camera shake in the first picture, but of course you wouldn't agree, so who are we to see who's right. On the other hand, I (and other people who own the phones) would be in a better position to comment on photos that they THEMSELVES have taken since they know exactly how the pictures were taken (camera shake, etc.) and under what environmental conditions. I've said it over and over again but you either don't seem to understand the importance of first hand experience or continue to remain oblivious about it.
 
1. Well that's your problem, may be there are only SE fans around? Even GSM arena pointed out that there is some red in K800, so that makes us at least two.

2. That was very smart, compare outdors night picture from N73 with close up shot from K800 with obvious source of light pointed right into plate and say, 'look, there is bluish haze on N73, and on K800 pic is great'.
Are you kidding me or what?

Well, you can't back up what you claim, so it does matter. Besides, you showed that your comparisons are not fair. And you are the one who keeps missing the point, cameras should be compared in equall conditions so review could be truelly fair.

Smart move. You didn't want to bash N73? Re read your and others previous posts, may be you forgat what you wrote.
 
I never said that it might not be there. I said that if it is there, it's not as prevalent as the blue on the N73



God, are you ignorant?



Alright? There is no bluish haze. The pic could've been taken better, but my gf was taking it while I was driving. The quality of the picture isn't the point anyway.

Here's another



Notice that there is no blue mist in the dark areas.




Yes, equal conditions, which means environmental conditions. Not allowing the K790 to use the flash is not letting it utilize its full potential when the whole point of the flash was to increase its performance in low light conditions, same with how there is an LED on the N73.



I did.
 
Does..


Vertical and Horizontal Resolution matter?

in those pics just posted above the sony has a 72 dpi and the nokia 300dpi..

how about ISO modes? nokia 250 and the sony 200?

i am not a photographer so i really dont know just asking peoplke that might know..
 
I don't know if it's your eyes or something, but you must be colour blind. I don't know what the hell you're talking about in the calculator pic being red but whatever.

Anyways

1) The pic of the girl is pretty good, not much of complaints there.

2) You must be blind not to see the crazy overprocessing and the distortion in colour in the picture. There is a loss of detail in the windows in the tower at the back, and the windows are distorted. The colours of the rooftops are distorted on the left of the tower, unless you have purple rooftops, and the overprocessing leading to a loss of detail is even more apparent on the sign at the right edge of the picture since you cant' even make out the words. The entire picture itself is overprocessed with oversaturated colours.

3) Pictures of the keys is quite good

4) Colour distortion is again seen on the top right of the picture.


You know what, honestly. I dont' even know why the heck you're arguing with people who actually OWN the phones. It's even more amazing that you're accusing people of not knowing how to handle their phone properly to take photos when more than one person has told you the same thing and you haven't even owned it. How the hell can you claim ppl of being a fanboy when they're the ones owning the phone (if not both and can probably form a better opinion than you who have to pull pictures that OTHER ppl took that you have no first hand experience of to make your point) and you don't even own either one and purporting one to be better. It's even more amazing that you're saying that he's a fanboy when he has told you that he owns a Nokia and that he likes his N73.

Get at least one of the phones, take a few pictures yourself in different environments, and we'll talk.
 
Bottom line is this the n95 5mp camera isnt gonna take wedding shots for u, but that camera with everything else on the phone, shouldnt even be mentioned with the lg or the k800, for that matter as a powerful device camera aside the n73 wins hands down also, i brought up the camera pic because we seem to nitpick about a phone, when in reality lets just say the k800 and the lg took better pics, what other phones come close to the n95 and believe me i think the one taking the picture has alot to do with it also, when we view the n95 at its highest level it looks very bad, but veiwing it at a 3mp level it looks pretty damn good, and that what makes 5mp a better camera in comparisson to the other 2 n73,k800 because whenu reduce the n95 photo its sharper at the same level. You tell me 1 phone out there that has everything just one, are there any window devices out there that come close to the n95, maybe iphone, im just curious,what phone, remeber its a phone first not a camera.
 
^^ like I2icky said


girl and keys look good. well even the girl parts of her hair looks smudge towards the left lower part.

the other two look over processed. and the tap in the water, part of tap looks good silver, and then the blue tinge starts to appear.
 
No, like i said, you are making up lame excuses for K800 again.
Your first hand experience is questionable, i really doubt you have it since you don't know obvious things, you dont' want to admit obvious things, all you do is posting useless K800 VGA pictures and crappy K800 at full res, without posting same pic from N73, nitpicking comparatively nice N73 pics, and for some reason you are always reffering to other Sony Ericsson fanboys from this thread ( feel yourself weak i guess) who, just as you, didn't do a thing to back up their claims. You cannot back up what you claim, it's all talk, i gave a true comparo pic, and you were so weak that you coudnt even admit that N73 pic is better.
 
I know picture of girl is good, and i didn't say second picture is perfect, i posted it here so you could see there is no blue in it and color of car lights is correct despite of it beight shout at low light conditions. Your nitpicking is obvious, who are you trying to fool here? In comparison to your low light pic, it's at least not worse.
You keep missing the point over and over again. Do you even read what i and you write? Let me repeat it again, in low light conditions picture on K800 might be better, even though i'm not sure in it, i won't argue on that, yet.

And I didn't comment on your pictures because i thought that discussion is ending, and you wanna keep this calm, but since you keep provoking all your senseless talk, i have to admit that your pictures suck at full res big time.
Color of you calc is silver with some redish tint on it, it's obvious on left side, on right it's less obvious, not pure silver as it supposed to be, may be the only one here who is blind is you? You keep saying i''m the only one who points out redness in K800, but still, even GSMarena points that out.
Look at picture with rose atf full res, it's colors are all artificial, and corners are washed out and grainy. It sucks again.
And second picture is interesting, look at that mat (or whatever), from left those cubes on mat are white, and from right it's again, what a suprise, redish, just as is in upper left corner.
Picture # 5 is blurry and those cars on right are grainy, just as in # 4.
Overall, at full res, unlike N73, K800 pics are not sharp enough, that's why you posted pictures in VGA first time.
I told you cure you Sony Ericsson blindness first.


Well, did anyone ever tell you mind your own business? Actually i can also make up that i had K800, and now i have N73, as you can see, i don't do it. By your logic, i have to have N73 or K800 so i could comment on quality of their pictures? May be you should start your own forum with it's own, special rules?
i've seen comparison pics in other review, someone posted LG picture from that review here, with some useless comment that its great, i posted N73 pictures of better quality in return, that's how all this started. In that particular review, N73 is better, well, generally. Afterwards some one got offended and started to post useless K800 VGA pics , which no one needed at first place. We have direct comparison review in equall conditions, and N73 wins, whether u like it or not. If there wouldn't be you and other SE fans, may be this discussion would be ended long time ago, or wont' even started.
 
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