+ Nokia N95; Carl Zeiss; Tessar Optic; 5 MPX - Video and Image Samples

It is not entirely the sensor's fault. The major reason why image quality sucks is not because of the sensor, but rather the lenses and post processing techniques used.

The highquality cameras out there use CMOS based sensors not CCD based sensors. See Nikon D2x, Canon 30D, Canon D1 Mark II N, Canon 5D, Canon 1Da Mark II, Canon 1D Mark II, Canon 1Ds, and some of these are over 2 years old

Don't get me wrong, CCD is a decent technology, but very antiquated, of which CMOS has caught up and surpassed many aspects in performance including pixel pitch, in the past few years.

Everything you said about CMOS being a pos applies.... If the year was 2005.
http://neasia.nikkeibp.com/neasia/001091

But like I said before, there is no reason to go to 5mpixel, if you're gonna get images like this. It's just a waste of effort and time. Heck the N95 uses MicroSD, which is limited to only 2gb, as per SD standards! That's how many images? (Your average 5mpixel compressed JPEG would be about 1.5MB) Meaning you'd get roughly 1400 photos, yeah that's alot but factor in the fact that this thing has a huge screen, so you put a few hundred megs of videos on there, 1200 photos, but wait it's a music device with dedicated music buttons, a gig of mp3s sounds reasonable right?, down to 100 pics.

I wonder how much video time u can record 30fps @ VGA resolution with 150 megs of space..

Only if she supported MicroSDHD, it would solve alot of things! .... Or does it support MicroSDHD?!?....
 
You know what, really forget it. When you actually own either phone and start snapping pictures yourself, you can come back and you'll get more credibility. Until that happens, the discussion is pointless since people with first hand knowledge/experience (people from both sides who either own the N73 or K800i I might add) is arguing with you who is basing your arguments off of heresy and other people's samples. I feel like I'm arguing with a monk as to how nasty meat tastes when he's never eaten it himself.

Also:



Here you go:



That's from post 81.



That's from post 84. Notice that I never said that it's not there, just that I either can't see it from those pics or its' not as prevalent as the blue mist on the N73 pictures (yes, even those in daylight). It's truly amazing how you can pick out 2 pictures so far that redness is at least slightly apparent and write paragraphs and paragraphs as to how horrendous it is when the fact still stands that a simple google search will result in dozens and dozens of discussions about the blue haze/mist and over processing of the N73 camera that the very people here are telling you. I guess the entire internet is biased towards SE and are against you.

And I guess PlayerKill (who's telling you the same thign as the rest of us) is SE biased too even though he owns an N73. Maybe deep down inside he truly hates his N73 and wants to smash it. Or are you going to pull up the argument of "he probably made up the fact that he owns an N73 so that he can argue against me" again
 
And maybe you should take your Nokia glasses off, what's your point

It's amazing how you can take whatever little respect people give you and totally trash it. It's completely your own doing that this has turned into an argument.

Anyways, back to the point. No one said that the pictures by the N73 were bad per se, just that they are flawed. Same goes with the SE. As for the reddish tint, they don't show up in my pictures, and as i said before, you're the first one that i've heard who have complained of such a thing. Hence, even if it does exist, it's at least not as prevalent as the bluish tint and overprocessing on the N73 which everyone knows about. Again, some people prefer the rich colours that the N73 gives them due to the processing algorithm, but on the same token, many others don't. Just because you don't agree (and in your words you have "Nokia" glasses on), doesn't mean that others have to agree with you.

As i have said before, I've owned a N73 in the past, and I was actually quite pleased with the image quality. I just got a bit annoyed at the bluish haze that was present in the photos, and was VERY annoyed at the bluish haze at night which made totally destroyed some of the pictures that i wanted to take. If you dont' find that the haze is that much of a problem, good for you. As i've said before, other than those two things (which some might not even care about), I was very satisfied with the N73.

And again, people are talking mostly about Nokias (and the N95 in particular) and comparing them to other phones because as B00rt said, this is a N95 thread.

Also, for illustrative purposes, here's what i'm talking about when i talk about the bluish haze. I have more examples but i don't find it necessary to post more when most people already know what i'm talking about. Note that other than the bluish haze, the picture itself is actually quite good.




Here's another picture taken with the K790a (albeit a different picture but illustrates the point nonetheless) under low lighting conditions. Notice the lack of bluish haze and I don't see whatever red haze you're talking about.



Same with this one under normal lighting conditions. I don't see the reddish haze you're talking about.
 
its as bright or even a little brighter than the n73, and the n95's screen is bigger physically, resolution wise still the same.
 
LoL, it seems so.



Ok fellas here is the deal. No phone as of yet captures colors in a proper manner. We have come a long way in the past few years, but we still have a ways to go yet. Let agree that neither one is perfect, each has its faults. If you want to claim one is better, don't do it by arguing on a forums, claim it by buying it. If you already own then phone then gloat by taking as many pictures as you possibly can every day!


There have been some valid points raised here, there have been some fanboy arguments, but enough is enough.
 
are you kidding me?

please open your eyes. u can see if it's two different locations..

first, by how the flower or whatever is titled.
and second

u can see more of the pot in the first one, therefore making it further away

i think your coming up with lame excuses trying to justify anything for the lens..



Oh,, and how can you tell? well for the fact that you can see more of the sign in the background, and how it's positioned..

doesn't take a genious to figure that one out.
 
A 30 second clip took up about 12mb when I was playing with the N93's video recording at the Nokia store, so I imagine results are going to be about the same.

If 5mp is too much for the N95, you could always change the quality back down to a lower settings. I imagine 3.2mp will be one of the options. So if the N95 takes 5mp shots as fast or faster than the N73 taking 3.2mp shots, what would the speeds be like for the N95 to take 3.2mp shots? There's about a half second difference in processing time for all the settings on my N73.
 
What's unfortunate is that it seems that the LG is a camera first, and a phone second

At this rate we'll never get a good device that can do both perfectly
 
hey guys i dont think the camera is really that bad by no stretch i mean the n73 is a great phone camera, and this one is better, i went to the sight with the sample pics, i saved them to my computer, and i viewed then at 50% which is about the full size of my n73 maybe little less and they were clear very clear. here is a shot reduced.
 
Yes, i was the firs tone to post the LG pics, to compare a 5megapixel camera phone to another 5megapixel camera phone..


the nokias pictures from the 5.0megapixel look like utter crap, and i am not the only one saying it..

stop being a nokia fan boy for a minute, and just look at the pictures carefully,

even with the yellowish tint in very few pictures of teh LG it's 5.0 camera acts way better then the nokia with the pictures posted above.

The pictures of the LG were more of a comparison of the 5.0 camera to the nokia camera, NOT the nokia 73 or sony k800... you went a bit further and started saying why i never posted the other pics..
well the reason i didn't post the other pics, were because I was just showing the LG pictures , not the SE or the n73//
 
I thought that was obvious that in post #63 i was answering to several users in one post. ..
I see no point in your words, yes, photos from N73 are not perfect, but no one said that in first place. Where exactly i or anyone else said, that camera on N73 (or on N95 for that matter) is perfect? All i said it is genereally better than competition. Then what's the point of your posts?
But still, we see some samples of photos of different phone cams, yet someone comes and starts saying "i think the images we see on the N73 look like ***" etc etc. You don't have to be rocket scientins to figure out whose that person sympathies belong to and what is he touting for.
 
My point is that you do have SE glasses on, red in your last photo is obvious, unfortunately, there is no same picture from N73 to compare, hence your samples are useless . But if you look on the ground you can still see it.
And don't try to pull that 'rescpect trashing" on me, i do respect everyone here, but i don't respect people who try to safely escape (hint). And btw, don't forget that engish is my second language.

I dont have neither N73, nor K800, i can only judge by GSMarena review, and judging by that review, camera on N73 seems to be better. Notice that they put exactly same pictures of same sites at the same time, THAT was a true comparison, unlike yours, picture of N73 is made in nigt, and pic of Sony Ericsson is one close up shout (Unlike N73, K800 does have a good flash) and the other one is daytime.
Who are you trying to fool here?
 
Those LG pics are pretty good although the one with the guiness has a blueish haze to it as well. For a 5mp pic I still dont think they compare to what the Sharp 3.2s are able to do. I also dont think those pics outclass the N95 or the N73 for that matter.
 
Yes, yellowish tint is obvious.
Why didn't you post all samples from that review?
These are same photos taken with N73. Take a careful look



Also take a look at radiator grille
 
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