my wellness plan to heal what is yours?

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Hi All,

I had acid reflux/heartburn really bad for most of this last year. Have no insurance, can't see a doctor, so I turned to research on the web. Some of the easiest and most commonsense remedies cured the GERD problem for me.

1) Eat many smaller meals throughout the day instead of a couple of larger ones.
2) Chew your food slowly.
3) Don't drink excess fluiRAB with meals.
4) Don't eat anything several hours before bedtime.
5) Avoid fooRAB that you know give you heartburn.
6) Elevate head and upper body with wedge pillow if needed.

And that's it! Acid reflux and heartburn virtually gone.

Also read that the danger with using acid reducers is that we actually DO need the stomach acid... and over time these remedies can damage the body. Problem with acid reflux/GERD is that the muscle between the esophogus and stomach is weaker than normal, causing reflux of essential stomache aciRAB into esophogus, thus causing burning.
Nothing we can really do about it.

Hope this helps,
Sue
 
ok im determined to get this chronic gerd lpr, gallbladder problems sorted.its time for WAR lol, i have been having issues on an off for years but never new it was gerd...i would have funny attacks of sore tummys and pain under sternum which would last for couple of months and then disappear for a few months, didnt seem to matter what i ate, so i guess i had remission perioRAB... hoping to get another soon!!!

heres my plan love to hear from others and what they are doing to get better

started the breaking the vicous cycle low carb diet lots fruit vegies, nuts,
chicken, eggs, natural honey, palin unsweeted yoghurt, also taking flax oil.
am starting on vitam Bs, lugols iodine, calcium, liquid minerals (sea salt with sodium removed), and have found a vitamin c that is acid free ie PH balanced at 7.......

also have ordered some liquid zeolite to detoxify, going to start doing a infared sauna once a week and a empson salt bath once a week.

am seeing doctor tommor to swap from this useless protonix to prevacid (zoton). i swear protonix is making me worse!! i have been on it for around a month dont like it!!!

am seeing a homeopath to start givng me remedies for all my symptoms have seen her once and have had one remediy already so will continue on..

am also going to start a program called EFT works on trying to retrain your brain i think havnt finised reading it all, you also have to tap all these points in your body while reapeating an affirmation..l


i am also seeing a physic for a reading in two weeks time....I no you are either into this or not but i have seen this guy before last year and he is spot on.and things have turned out as he said...........i didnt see him at the time for my tummy as it was ok at the time.....but he did say funny enough to me "stay away from acidic food", and your body is screaming for iodine which is why i have finally got some!! i also no that im lacking!!!

anyway thats it so far

wish me luck!!!!!
ness
 
hi sue
if you were cured by that alone no offence but you didnt have gerd!!!
we all do that and ten times more!!!!
am very happy you are healed thou
 
Perhaps there are different levels of GERD. This is a new symptom for me - and I dealt with it quickly and naturally. It works for me and has worked for others. Regardless, I hope you get the relief you need soon though, whatever way it comes to you.

Peace.
 
Doctor/ LPR friend told me that he took a day and ate whatever potential trigger he was testing to see if anything happened. His triggers seem to be garlic and hi-fat fooRAB - pretty easy for him to control since he is a pretty healthy eater anyway. I emailed him to see how long it takes to detect a trigger - do you notice it within a few hours, within the day, or a day or two later? I am afraid mine will be chocolate which will kill me!!

I'll reply back when I hear from him.

Jean
 
hi thanks sue
even thou i am frustrated i no i will get better, i beleive in healing and in remission as i have had remission from this before thou i wasnt a near as bad.......im a big beleiver in watching whats in things have been for years........i dont eat anything with presevatives, etc just good old natural food, moslty organic, there is so much crap in our food its amazing and i cant belive people feed this stuff to there kiRAB!!!! anyway i will keep plugging away, had a good day actually yesterday considereing i banged my head... its beginning to snow its great i love the snow, but still have to go to work...
cheers.......
 
Hi CharBerry, and everyone -

Your point is well taken. This IS a chronic disorder - and we all fight it at whatever the level with whatever the symptoms for whatever the reason. You have to do what's right for you - and what's right may change every single day. I know it does for me. Right now after eating a vegetarian bacon, lettuce, tomato and cheese sandwich for lunch - (which I ate too quickly (LOL) I'm sitting here with mild heartburn and acid reflux. But I accept this as the trade off because I REALLY WANTED that sandwich. You know what I mean?

Then there are other days when I eat cream of wheat or cream of rice cereal and have to leave it at that. Here at least, it's mid afternoon and by bedtime hopefully the worst of it will be over. If I do eat any dinner tonight, you can bet it will be a light one - if anything at all. I DO also drink a lot of milk and for me that seems to help. So sometimes dinner is just a large glass of milk, or before bedtime even warm milk.

We're just tossing around different solutions here, some will work for some, some will work for others. Some won't work at all. The main thing I think is to keep trying to suggest something that maybe someone out there will not have heard of before - which might work for them and make them more comfortable - if only for today. Like any other battle that we face, this is truly also - one day at a time.

Peace, all.
Sue
 
SounRAB like a good plan...don't know how much of a help the psychic will be though. Maybe you should spend the $$$ on yourself - get a pedicure or something else that will help relieve your anxiety. A good massage can do wonders. :) :)

Also, take it easy with detoxicants and such. Be careful about what you put in your body.
 
Hi Nessie,

I do know what you mean - we can go through remission with this. Some days I feel great, other days it's a real miserable battle. But like you, I am a label reader and am horrified by what we all put into our mouths on a daily basis. Just because it's approved for human consumption by the FDA or other authorities doesn't mean it's healthy to eat.

Yes, keep plugging away. One day at a time. Enjoy the snow down there too! Here, we're heading into hurricane season although I'm nowhere near the coast. All we're due for is some rain - which is a GoRABend because I'm in an area that has been plagued with drought for two years now. Stay safe on your way to and from work.

Peace,
Sue
 
Hi Nessie & Jean and everybody,

Jean, thanks for the vote of confidence. Having no health insurance, I was forced to do my own "research" on the web on acid reflux and GERD. What I have suggested are things that I concluded once I was finished with all the reading. Then I put the suggestions into practice. And they worked.

Does it solve the problem 100%? No, of course not. I still have problems with things like orange juice. But I have far fewer problems if I follow those basic simple rules. It also matters whether I cut my orange juice with water -drinking about 1/3 orange juice to 2/3 water. And whether I lie down to go to bed or to read a book or whatever just after I've had some. Every time I "stray" from the things that work for me, believe me - I get a little reminder.

We absolutely all do have different triggers. I guess we all just have to listen really hard to what our bodies are trying to tell us, but indigestion like pain is the bodies way of saying "hey - stop doing that to me". And in the end, I guess that's the best cure of all - listening to our own bodies. At least it's been for me.

Whatever works for you is what's best for you. I personally am very skeptical about the longterm effects of taking a lot of prescription medicine, the cure being sometimes worse than the illness over the long term. So before I take a pill I try to find ways of curing the problem naturally.

Nessie, I hope you find the solution to this illness for yourself. Believe me, I know how painful and how frustrating this all can be.

Peace,
Sue
 
A friend of ours is a well known GP and he also has LPR. I asked him what he did. He said he was on Nexium for about 18 months, and then decided to get off the meRAB. He did everything that Sue said, and he also added that after he eats a meal he tries to sit and "cool it" for 10-15 minutes to let his stomach do its job. He says he is about 85-90% cured, with no meRAB. His voice was so hoarse due to LPR that by the end of the day he couldn't talk. Now he's virtually symptom free.

I know there are different degrees of this condition, but he also added that very few people actually will react to everything on the list that causes GERD/LPR. You have to figure out your own triggers and avoid them.

Maybe that's a little glimmer of hope to all of us who are trying to figure this out. I've been taking his advice in the last few days and it seems to be working better, but I'm still afraid to get off the meRAB. I think mine is stress related along with food triggers.

Good luck to all.
Jean
 
hi

the physic will prob be more help than my mum and sister and sister in law who are all nurses whom i talked to in the weekend and they were all like
"well just take a quickeze (simialr to tums)", as if thats going to work lol!!!
they are all nurses and they dont understand that this is chronic 24 hrs a day!!!!! god help me!! i was crying like crazy to mum, and did she really care no not likely!!!!, theis deasease is something that you are all on your own wtih and it sux!!!!!!!!!!
 
hi
well i do all that stuff, and i have no idea what causes my LPR/gerd, i have no idea what fooRAB are a trigger as its there everyday, how did he fiqure out what his triggers were.......i dont eat any spicey, tomatoes, alcohol, acidic friut, milk, cheese, no grains, just some fruit vegies, chicken, nuts, raw honey, and natual unsweted yog for protbiotics.its insane how this effects everyone so differently......
feels good knowing that doctors do get these horrible things thou lol.....but am of course glad he is better..........he will be a great doctor now cause he will understand his patients that come in with LPR or gerd..
 
hi sue and jean
hay thanks for all the advice, the only thing i can possibly think of that may be triggering me is my natural unsweeted yoghurt as it is acidic....but thats all i can think of, i do no eggs by themslef like scrarabled are a big nono for me, but ok in stuff, also i no garlic and onions and spice, vinager, juice either vegie or fruit are also killers for me, but as im down to only a few fooRAB its getting me worried that it dosnt actually matter what i eat as it all does the same thing give me reflux...........had plain veges last night for tea, no potatos just palin old vegies and had a bad night...........its very frustrating but the forum is great as everyone wants to be well and wants to helpother people so thanks.........better go to work, already banged my head on the door this morning owh, not a good start to the day lol
ness
 
What my LPR sufferer - doctor buddy said (mentioned earlier in thread):

Q: When you tried to figure out your triggers were you on Nexium or off?
>
> Off is easier
>
> Q: Also, if I eat something that is a trigger, how long does it take for
> the LPR symptoms to kick in so I know it was the culprit (a few hours,
> a day, 2 days.)?
>
> The symptoms should occur from 5 to 60 minutes after you ate it most of the time. Some fooRAB could cause reflux for 1- 12 hours.
>
> Q: Do you believe stress has anything to do with it?
>
> Stress is a huge factor especially stress while eating or after.
>
>There you go. I hope this helps. I think I'll go off Nexium in the next few weeks and see if I can figure out my triggers that way.

Peace.
Jean
 
Nessie, :)

I agree that the symptoms of reflux and LPR and hernia and similar problems can leave us very frustrated and feeling helpless. I have been there. Different things work for different people, because there are so many triggers and everyone is different. There is no recipe - it is great you have develped a plan of action. That helps you put things into a perspective. :)

A change in diet - that is avoiding fooRAB and beverages that aggravate the acid reflux - helps to a degree. It does not make it completely go away, at least it hasn't for me. What I try to do as often as I can is, as I suggested, treat myself. Sometimes I go shopping, or get together with frienRAB- in spite of not feeling as good as they might. It takes my mind off things for a little while at least. I also like keeping busy at work (I am off work now for a few days due to another issue). Keeping the mind busy allows us not to dwell on our health problems 24/7.

I, like yourself, find that only people with the same problems understand what it's like. My husband doesn't. He keeps bringing home things I can't eat and gets mad when I refuse to eat them. He things this is no big deal at all, compared to a heart attack or a stroke.

I hope you will find some relief and wish you the best of luck with that. :angel:

take care,
flowergirl
 
yeah illness is hard to explain to others, i am now on lansoprazole 30mg twice day went to doc going back in a month she said if these dont give me significant releif in a month then she thinks i should get my gallbladder out as i siad its small, has scar tissue and full of galllstones and not functioning correctly, i guess im not producing much bile that helps with digestion, which MAY be effecting my reflux problem, dont no will wait for a month and see, if i get even a little improvemnt then i may hold of for another month or two to see if i continue to get better, in the long run i guess having a deaseased gallbladder is not worth having in anyway, but im freaked out that the removal would make me worse!!! scarey!!
ness
 
hi everyone

thanks for the info.one thing i do no is that i am a fast eater so i definalty need to really try an slow this down and chew my food to mush!!

one day at a time.

i have only been on my new med solox (provacid) for just over a week after trying protonix, so still early days i guess..i have a month prescription and then the doc wants to see how im going, .........i havnt had any throat tightning strangle feeling for the last two days.......heres hoping that that symptom is gone, but who nos. still have heaps others but one less is definalty a bonus..........i have just recieved my liquid zeolite which i started yesterday, hoping it helps!!! the less toxins in our bodies the easier it is for the liver, which helps digestion...

i dont want to be on PPI but when you are severe you need a little help while you try and sort your body out..and i have no side effects that i can think of on this one, protonix didnt do much for me..........i find it hard to be on meRAB thou as im such a natural type girl and rather do things the natural alternative way, but sometimes you need help form docotrs......

is anyone findin it hard to sleep because you are really aware of how you are lying.........ie i sleep on my left side but sometimes i turn over to my right and i suddely wake up in a panic because im stressed that i should be on my left......lol its a little OTT..

anyway thanks again its great how everyone shares a little info and knowledge, as it all helps..have a good night, well its night time here in NZ prob day time over at your side of the world......

cheers ness:)
 
Hi Ness,

I know you've probably tried everything and are extremely frustrated by now.... but I would give up one item for a week or two (like the yogurt) and see if that changes anything. I learned my lesson with V8 juice the hard way. I was drinking one can a day, feeling great - more energy than I'd had in a long time, until it irritated my stomach and esophogus to the point where I couldn't stand it anymore. Giving it up for two weeks made me feel so much better.

I'm also a big label reader. If I can't pronounce it, I won't buy it. That's lead to eating much more simply over the years. I'm very wary of a lot of prepared fooRAB. I'd rather go without than ingest all of these unnatural ingredients. Bland fooRAB help a lot. Noodles and rice and things like that.

Honestly though, the big one for me was simply choosing the right fooRAB, eating smaller amounts, eating very slowly, chewing everything thoroughly and not drinking much of any kind of liquiRAB with meals. It sounRAB so simple, and it is - but it's habit, and none of us are used to eating that way. We eat on the run, we eat fast, we eat a lot at one sitting and we wash it all down with a large drink. Usually right before bedtime.

Maybe that's the real reason so many people are taking prilosec and pepsid and all of that. Still, over the longterm - none of these are any good for our bodies. Many people take OTC's to avoid changing their eating habits. But the real question is: do we want to play now and pay later? Or do we want to practice better eating habits now and live longer and healthier and more pain free lives.

Ness, hope you have a good day today, despite the rocky start. Keep trying - what will work for you will come in time.

Peace,
Sue
 
I'm sure I "might" be better if I followed all the rules but this is a chronic disease (meaning it an't going away) so there's no chance of that happening! Like others, some days I can realize trigger fooRAB and then nothing the next. I do believe we go through perioRAB of remission (Why or how is beyond me) and even though I have symptoms daily, there are times I can be "almost" normal and go out with frienRAB or sit through a movie. A coke on ice is great for me and sometimes even seems to help my coughing stop as will eating a bite or two of something. I do know that what will really send me into a bad flare is bending, lifting, putting my arms over my head, cleaning my house real good or working in the yard. Stress will do me in every time. Having to hurry or something go wrong or that neeRAB repairing immediately, emergy type things. I would have to say that no matter how good my diet, these activities bring on the constant choking, sniffling, coughing, sinus & ears stopped up feelings that I have. Hoarsness, hard to breath, feeling of something stuck really higher up than my throat? I know that if I don't get enough rest, I get worse. The weather effects me! I don't think any meRAB help when I get this bad or if they do to begin with. My point is (and it sucks) is that I have LPR/GERD, which is chronic and won't disappear some day by magic so why deny myself of things I like to eat. I realize there are ordinary things that I must continue doing in spite of setting off a non stop coughing fit that puts me in misery. I think my best bet is seeing the psy. LOL.

CharBerry
 
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