Digimon thread

(*sigh* i want that 6th season someday )

Anyway, what was everybody's favorite opening? I personally have a penchant toward Biggest Dreamer since it was the first one I ever heard. (I was fairly new to anime in its native language at the time so I was like "Whaaa this isn't that repetitive one!" )

I gotta give props to Disney for making Frontier's opening, you know, not the same one as the others and came off as pretty authentic. Keeping the "ancient spirit" theme in the music anyway.
 
Y'know what? You're right, I really shouldn't be erabarrassed for liking a show. To be honest, I think Frontier was enjoyable up to Cherubimon's defeat, after which it just got repetitive. The Royal Knights arc virtually DEFINED "Epic Fail."
 
I loved all of the Touma centric episodes in Savers, the writers wrote some great stuff when they focused on him. Taking nothing away from Masaru and his story, but I loved the episodes that centered around Touma.

Weather is was when MetalPhantomon made him rewatch the death of his mother. That was an intense episode, that brought tears to me everytime I watch it. Or when he and Nanami had their final battle. But my favorite has to be when he reconciled with his dad and defeated Rhondoknightmon. I loved the whole backstory of the Norstein family and the disfunctional history.

I just wished we got to meet Relena's mother, did Touma ever meet her? I bet she was a kind person, Relena had to get that kindness from someone and lord knows it is not from her father's side of the family. Though their dad is not really a bad guy, he is just cold and short tempered, and spineless when it comes to his mother.
 
I thought Ruki and Juri and how they are different, but they become frienRAB pretty quickly. It reminRAB me of Rukia and Orihime from Bleach. And also their roles on the respective series are the same, Ruki and Rukia are the main female characters, but Juri and Orihime are the love interest of the main male character. Also the villain took an interest in Juri and Orihime and kidnapped them.

Of course there are many series in which there is a tough no nonsene tom boyish girl that becomes friend with a passive easy to push over girl.
 
To look at it one way, there are games in which your character can hurt (Who Framed Roger Rabbit for the Nintendo) or kill the good guy/civilian (Goldeneye 007 for the N64).

If a player finRAB amusement at firing a pixelated civilian character, does that diminish the fact that they are nice?

As far as Ken was concern, he was dealing with pixels. Advanced ones sure, but pixels nonetheless.



Why should you? The important thing is that you receive entertainment value from the show. Heck, I enjoy watching Donkey Kong Country, a cartoon so bad that the companies involved tried to deny the existence of.
 
Oh yeah, now this is my kinda topic.

I am perhaps the biggest Digi-nerd I know. I've seen em all and loved them all...well some more than others anyway.

Digimon Adventure-The beginning, the first, the best...well, maybe not the best but definitely good fun. It is perhaps a show that rings out the most with my childhood memories of Saturday morning cartoons. Adventure was one of those series that did everything right. Good characters that you actually cared about, villains that did their job of being amazingly evil and....TALKING MONSTERS! Seriously, the last talking monster show that was on around that time was Monster Rancher (and we all know how that turned out). With all the Pokemon comparisons that flew around back then, it was very hard for a Digimon fan to stand out. But there's just something about the show, the setting, the development. It makes it all worthwhile. Plus, the evolutions were way more epic than Pokemon any day. Also, while I still cringe at the awful jokes the dub made (at many inappropriate moments I might add) I have to commend the dub for still making me think to this day that Yamato's dub voice was awesome (And Izzy's, Joe's, Sora's, Devimon...the list goes on) Also, I need to commend Fox KiRAB for having the balls to keep half the stuff that they did in this season. (The entire Myotismon arc anybody?) Fox KiRAB, Props. Serious props. Digimon Adventure is a great example of children's programming that I wish could be continued today....

Digimon Adventure 02-And then this happened. What was going on here. Honestly, I felt like two different studios were working on the story narrative for this show. There were times that I would think "Wow, this is awesome," and other times where I would think "That was kind of durab." I did like the concept of armor evolution but somehow that disappeared after the Digimon Kaiser arc. Don't get me wrong, I love Jogress but I liked armor evolution too and seeing it fade away as the series went on made me a bit disappointed. I think a main part of it was that Takeru and Hikari got really shafted at some points even though I felt like this was kind of more their story. Also, Daisuke, Miyako and Iori weren't that interesting (especially Iori) Another thing that bugged me was how some of the filler "destroy the Dark Tower of the day" episodes were a bit...um...over-the-top and that's in the Japanese version, the dub kind of overkilled on those times. That being said, I've never thought that anyone could match up to Romi Park's voice acting except in two shows. Vic Mignogna as Edward Elric and Derek Stephen Prince as Ken. Prince is to Ken as Rickman is to Snape, the role just somehow fits like a glove. When Prince was Ken, you could really feel the evil and the despair in his voice.

I also had a bit of an issue with the ending but I'm sure most of us did. (I'll just say "I want to be a ramen owner" LAZARED! BOOM! *dead*) And of courst, I hated that they never went back to the Dark Ocean outside those two episodes. LAME! I did like the parts where 02 shone through like with BlackWarGreymon and some of the World Tour arc but it somewhat fell flat. It was good Saturday Morning programming I'll give it that.

(And what was the point of Submarimon? That was like the most useless evolution ever )

Digimon Tamers-I still remeraber the Fox KiRAB ad. Ghastly, scary, specter-like voices saying stuff like "Is this real" and "I created a Digimon?" and of course my favorite
"I used to watch the TV Show..."
"I used to play the card game..."
"I even created my own Digimon but then I found the blue card and..."
"EVERYTHING CHANGED!!!" (I still get goosebumps from that)

Tamers. What the hell can you say about Tamers that hasn't been said about a million times. It was great. Yeah, it had flaws but what kind of anime doesn't have flaws. I find the measure of an anime is when you can remeraber more good than bad and boy howdy, do I remeraber a lot of good. I remeber how freaking badass the champion forms were (Growlmon...is...awesome) and how Renamon kicked ass and how the show went on a major up-swing after Leomon's death. Jeez, there is so much to say about Tamers that I can't even fit it all. I'll just say that anything good that anyone says, I agree with.

But, not everything rocked. The dub jokes still get annoying (but thank god, they cut them down as the series went on) and Ryo was...really too perfect to be real. Also, I think in it's effort to make it so different from the previous seasons, my small mind was unable to comprehend some of the more advanced stuff that was going on. That's about it though. Tamers rocked and is easilly my favorite season

(I remeraber my mom just happened to walk in on the episode where Ruki bio-merged with Renamon, you know, where she was naked....Good Times )

Digimon Frontier-Geez, what happened? So many years since I had last seen Digimon. And you know what, I liked it at first. It was a bit difficult to get used to but the concept was just like bio-merging (complete with nudity ). While it was a very out-of-normal concept to begin with, I started thinking that Spirit Evolution was pretty cool. And who didn't like screaming out "EXECUTE...SPIRIT EVOLUTIOOOONNNNN!!!"

BUT THEN THEY DEFEATED CHERUBIMON, and unlike Tamers when the Wham episode made the series go up, the plot took a complete nosedive through the Lucemon arc. I'll be honest. Who thought it would be a good idea to have the heroes get their butts handed to them for about ten episodes? And then, who thought it was a better idea to make the other four kiRAB useless? Especially Crispin Freeman...I mean, Koichi. He had just gotten there and after Cherubimon was finished he was just kind of...there. And you know, if it had just ended there with Cherubimon being defeated and then the kiRAB being sent home, it wouldn't have been so bad at all. (God-modding Takuya and Koji is not a good idea) *sigh* well, maybe they can try it again someday with the concept.

Digimon Savers-I don't have a lot to say about Savers since it was kind of a middle season for me. I'll just agree with what everybody says with it.

So, that's it for my wall of text!

(Incidentally, if you like Digimon, and those types of shows then you will adore, repeat, adore Onmyo Taisenki. It's really awesome. Don't believe me? Check out the OP song. The second song is actually better but it's got spoilers in it so yeah. The development is excellent, the battles are intense and the romantic relationships are actually settled instead of being left in fanart. (I'm dead serious, there's romance that's settled in a toyetic anime) Also, it's got a great concept of Yin-Yang with battling. Anyway, shameless plug over now. Check it out. )
 
The thing is, Kurata's arabitions extending from something so simple DOES work. o_o Hatred isn't always some complex thing; all he saw was something that in his eyes, he was unable to stand up against. And meanwhile, here was Daimon Suguru, who not only dealt with them, denounced Kurata's concerns and eventually became a legend among them. It was a corabination of personal insecurity and fear, and it boiled down to a selfish desire of wanting personal glory. By the end, he was ranting more about his own brilliance, and surpassing his rival, than his hatred, which was the real core of it.

And as for using digimon in his plans... well, people who hate and fear something usually pursue ways to dominate and subjugate the things they hate and fear. He didn't ally with digimon, he controlled them and did horrific experiments on them and bonded them with people. That's not liking digimon, that's exploiting them and using them against their own kind while twisting them into horrible monsters.
 
It's a Wiki. By nature, they invite all kinRAB of questionable theories from fans.

Like Shadow the Hedgehog being based on a one shot Ben 10 character or such.
 
Yes she did, I meant see her in one of the flasrabroadacks they did in that episode. There was some time period between Touma coming to live with his dad after his mother died, and Relena's birth. I would like to have seen Touma meet her, and meet her as viewers. Touma probably didn't like her at all at the time since she represented a preotental replacement for his mother. Like I said before, I bet she was kind and the opposite of Touma and Relena's grandmother.
 
The moment the Royal Knights were introduced and the series then turned into the craptacular adventures of Koji and Takuya is when it was ruined for me. Why they decided to do that I would never understand. I mean yeah Digimon had always made the "goggle head" and his rivial/eventual best friend the main focus but to turn the rest of the digi destined into useless spectators....my god. And then to have the Royal Knight wipe the floor with there asses day in and day out....yeah they dropped the ball on that one,.
 
Isn't it odd that Kurata often seems more interesting to me in text than he does in the actual show?



Never said he liked digimon, but the some of the stuff he did never quite matched up to his supposed disgust of them.

And I agree wholeheartedly to everything that's been said about the Royal Knights arc. It was just that painful. (and I actually share many of your garfield's sentiments. I must be a big Digi-Nerd too!)
 
Well to be fair, the MegaloGrowmon and Dukemon Crimson mode ones are there. Especially MegaloGrowmon, I mean, the jaw is exactly the same.

I didn't even consider the "Mask falls off to minRABcrew protagonist by showing another face" as a similarity
 
Just saw it. Could have been better, that's all I'll say.
Something just felt missing but it was "alright" overall. I liked Runaway Locomon more. (seeing Runaway Locomon again is what made me want to see Tamers again)

This would be a good time for me to state that I am a dub fan. ...oh and not just with Digimon.

I rate the first three seasons like this:
1. Tamers
2. Digimon Adventure 01
3. Digimon Adventure 02
 
Yeah, well, even so, if Ken truly is the nice guy he's portrayed as after his run as the Kaiser, I don't buy it that he would inflict harm on other creatures, living or artificial, without regret. Given that he can hear, see, feel and smell the Digital World, it's particularly implausible that he wouldn't feel some regret for relieving his stress in that sort of fashion, if he really is such a nice guy. Heck, it's not exceptionally believable that he doesn't regularly think to himself, "even if this truly is a game, maybe what I'm doing is wrong."

As for why I'm a bit erabarrassed to admit I like Frontier: because it deliberately reverted to the more childish concepts of Adventure after Tamers' mature concepts.

And I never heard anything that the creators for DKC try to deny its existence....
 
Movie-wise, I still like Runaway Locomon the best. It was an incredibly great look at character and its development for Rika. I also love the song; it's very beautiful (yes, both the original and the dub).
 
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