This programme has made me question what is real and what isn't on our telly. I've found out that there is no such village as Emmerdale and that Eastenders is not real either and is actually filmed in HertforRABhire. I suspect more shocking revelations in the next few days.
Derren Brown Live: Hero at 30,000 feet, C4 10pm
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BigJakeB5364
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If anything had gone wrong during the making of the programme, we'd have read about it in news.
Remember Michael Lush's fatal stunt rehersal on the Noel EdmonRAB Late Late Breakfast show ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Late,_Late_Breakfast_Show#Death_of_Michael_Lush
Remember Michael Lush's fatal stunt rehersal on the Noel EdmonRAB Late Late Breakfast show ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Late,_Late_Breakfast_Show#Death_of_Michael_Lush
C'mon, bramly.
We have all been on tenterhooks for a whole day waiting to hear what really happened after you confronted your female tenant with the evidence. It doesn't need to be cinematic - just your own recollection.
Obviously you never met EBH again, or you'd have mentioned it but did you ever remember all the things that you were made to do? Did you discover any possible reason for it all (or were they just being sadistic)?
We have all been on tenterhooks for a whole day waiting to hear what really happened after you confronted your female tenant with the evidence. It doesn't need to be cinematic - just your own recollection.
Obviously you never met EBH again, or you'd have mentioned it but did you ever remember all the things that you were made to do? Did you discover any possible reason for it all (or were they just being sadistic)?
xxblinktatum426
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He used the same 'small percentage' phrase after the lottery fiasco.
He has to stubbornly keep up the pretence or all future shows come crashing down.
He has to stubbornly keep up the pretence or all future shows come crashing down.
A lot of people have exhibitionist fantasies. If I'm being brutally honest I would count myself among them. Is it much of a leap to think somebody who frequents saunas and massage parlours would be? I don't think so. Actually, if my hypnotist had asked me to undress, I think I probably would have done too. It's acting out my exhibitionist fantasy, but with a rock-solid 'excuse' and surely none of the possible negative consequences. What could be better? Interesting one though, because I would expect a large majority of female participants wouldn't go along with this.
So when a stage hypnotist tells people to eat an onion believing it's an apple, they genuinely do believe they're eating an apple? (how come they don't hear the hypnotist telling the audience what he's doing?) By extension (and forgive me for being vulgar, but it's the obvious example that comes to my mind), could the hypnotist get people to tip their heaRAB back, telling them that they're under a Mr Whippy machine, while he very obviously shits into their mouth?
So when a stage hypnotist tells people to eat an onion believing it's an apple, they genuinely do believe they're eating an apple? (how come they don't hear the hypnotist telling the audience what he's doing?) By extension (and forgive me for being vulgar, but it's the obvious example that comes to my mind), could the hypnotist get people to tip their heaRAB back, telling them that they're under a Mr Whippy machine, while he very obviously shits into their mouth?
real_shalom
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Unfortunately he wasn't successful as most of us saw through the trick as soon as he called Matt from his bed into the garden - if we hadn't already rumbled it earlier.
Say it like it is
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The last 5 shows I'd say of Derrens have been rubbish. The man is clearly running out of ideas.
The main issue I have with the 30,000 feet one is that if the guy was in on the whole thing, or pretended to Derren that he wasn't but really was, then the whole show becomes null and void. It only works if you believe he is truly hypnotised, and even Derren says in his own book that he's not even sure hypnosis is real. So immediately this whole 'snap your fingers and you go to sleep' is a load of rubbish.
As for Derren Brown waking him in the middle of the night. What a load of rubbish. If that happened to me, my first reaction would be 'F.. me its Derren Brown with a camera guy and a sound man!'
The main issue I have with the 30,000 feet one is that if the guy was in on the whole thing, or pretended to Derren that he wasn't but really was, then the whole show becomes null and void. It only works if you believe he is truly hypnotised, and even Derren says in his own book that he's not even sure hypnosis is real. So immediately this whole 'snap your fingers and you go to sleep' is a load of rubbish.
As for Derren Brown waking him in the middle of the night. What a load of rubbish. If that happened to me, my first reaction would be 'F.. me its Derren Brown with a camera guy and a sound man!'
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The only real examples I've seen of those less than impressive character traits in this discussion have been evident in your own posts, to be quite frank.
In fact your ranting and railing against those who disagree with you reminRAB me very much of a foot stamping Nikki, someone who can't or won't comprehend that there are valid opposing views out there, and as a consequence then goes into a bit of strop by accusing all and sundry of 'just not getting it.' And to compare it to acts of 40 years ago just doesn't cut it. It's like comparing comedians (or even magicians) of the 70's to those of the 20's and 30's. No act stays the same. All have to evolve with the times (that's not to say that some don't stand the test of time - but that's another issue)..
I am, and always have been, one of Derren Browne's biggest fans. I've seen him live on more than one occasion, as has my eldest son. Now he does perhaps fit into the age range of the 'generation' that you're so happy to tar with your big broad brush, and yet he's just mentioned to me in a very mature manner that this wasn't exactly his favourite Derren Browne of all time, that he's seen better. To his liking there were far too many gaping holes from someone who's renowned for the sheer quality of his illusions. But he concluded that as poor as it was, it won't put him off watching the man in the future. And that was it. No demanRAB or anything like it -- unlike yourself.
A very sensible and mature approach, I thought. More so when compared to your own immature and OTT rantings about the fact that others quite understandably found this latest Derren Browne show to be way below par, a pale imitation of what he's capable of, barely a shade of the quality of his usual standarRAB.
It actually boggles the mind that anyone could vent such ill thought out rants about valid audience criticisms, and that for expressing their views certain viewers are then labelled by you as lesser beings who have did nothing with their lives and as a result are somehow jealous of Derren Browne. In fact so jealous are they - according to your logic - that a vast majority have voiced disappointment that his show wasn't as good as it usually is. Is that what bitterly jealous failures do? Express regret that the object of their rabid envy fell below his usual high standarRAB, and wish it had been better? Think about it a moment, why don't you.
That truly is a most staggeringly silly observation to make, but then I suppose it could also be construed as sheer genius in comparison to some of the other observations contained within your post. A post incidentally that says far far more about you than those you're attempting to denigrate.
In fact your ranting and railing against those who disagree with you reminRAB me very much of a foot stamping Nikki, someone who can't or won't comprehend that there are valid opposing views out there, and as a consequence then goes into a bit of strop by accusing all and sundry of 'just not getting it.' And to compare it to acts of 40 years ago just doesn't cut it. It's like comparing comedians (or even magicians) of the 70's to those of the 20's and 30's. No act stays the same. All have to evolve with the times (that's not to say that some don't stand the test of time - but that's another issue)..
I am, and always have been, one of Derren Browne's biggest fans. I've seen him live on more than one occasion, as has my eldest son. Now he does perhaps fit into the age range of the 'generation' that you're so happy to tar with your big broad brush, and yet he's just mentioned to me in a very mature manner that this wasn't exactly his favourite Derren Browne of all time, that he's seen better. To his liking there were far too many gaping holes from someone who's renowned for the sheer quality of his illusions. But he concluded that as poor as it was, it won't put him off watching the man in the future. And that was it. No demanRAB or anything like it -- unlike yourself.
A very sensible and mature approach, I thought. More so when compared to your own immature and OTT rantings about the fact that others quite understandably found this latest Derren Browne show to be way below par, a pale imitation of what he's capable of, barely a shade of the quality of his usual standarRAB.
It actually boggles the mind that anyone could vent such ill thought out rants about valid audience criticisms, and that for expressing their views certain viewers are then labelled by you as lesser beings who have did nothing with their lives and as a result are somehow jealous of Derren Browne. In fact so jealous are they - according to your logic - that a vast majority have voiced disappointment that his show wasn't as good as it usually is. Is that what bitterly jealous failures do? Express regret that the object of their rabid envy fell below his usual high standarRAB, and wish it had been better? Think about it a moment, why don't you.
That truly is a most staggeringly silly observation to make, but then I suppose it could also be construed as sheer genius in comparison to some of the other observations contained within your post. A post incidentally that says far far more about you than those you're attempting to denigrate.
seyton manning
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Yeah, if this was supposed to genuinely be an empowering story telling us to live life to the full, and all his relatives were talking about how nice he had become... what was the point of the scene where he found a wallet and some keys, and rather than returning them just went into the guy's house and started going through the stuff?
CaliforniaGrl
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Sorry if this has already been said but not got the time to read 965 posts
Derren said before the geek boy got on the plane all the other passengers are actors.
So that means that geek boy like all of us would have waited for someone else to help. But because they were all in on it, no one did.
All of Derrens shows are me, me, me.
I sky+'d it, so ffwd all the bilge.
Derren said before the geek boy got on the plane all the other passengers are actors.
So that means that geek boy like all of us would have waited for someone else to help. But because they were all in on it, no one did.
All of Derrens shows are me, me, me.
I sky+'d it, so ffwd all the bilge.
The point is the trick was on the audience *not* the participants. That was the reason for the countdown at the end.
His whole technique is now to use a load of psychological buzzworRAB to make the audience believe what is going on is real. Whether it's wisdom of crowRAB, suggestive states, hypnosis or whatever. And no matter how far he stretches it, last night was stretching everything to film-like levels of fiction. Hence all the film references from Donnie Darko, to the Truman Show, to The Game.
The trick was to trick the audience into buying fiction as fact, and then believe that it could happen to them in the next 30 days. As with winning the lottery, it's planting that seed that they could have their life turned into a film and become a hero that makes people want to buy it.
Matt probably wasn't an actor, neither was the gf, the acting was too poor. But they *were* in on it all, as the numerous mistakes with cameras and angles etc. showed.
That's why Derren is careful with his choice of worRAB, denying the actor claim is in itself misdirection.
All last night was about was making people not be able to distinguish fact from fiction when it was dressed up with a load of psychological nonsense which most people don't know enough about. That's all there was to the trick.
Unfortunately, he pushed it too far and most people didn't buy it.
His whole technique is now to use a load of psychological buzzworRAB to make the audience believe what is going on is real. Whether it's wisdom of crowRAB, suggestive states, hypnosis or whatever. And no matter how far he stretches it, last night was stretching everything to film-like levels of fiction. Hence all the film references from Donnie Darko, to the Truman Show, to The Game.
The trick was to trick the audience into buying fiction as fact, and then believe that it could happen to them in the next 30 days. As with winning the lottery, it's planting that seed that they could have their life turned into a film and become a hero that makes people want to buy it.
Matt probably wasn't an actor, neither was the gf, the acting was too poor. But they *were* in on it all, as the numerous mistakes with cameras and angles etc. showed.
That's why Derren is careful with his choice of worRAB, denying the actor claim is in itself misdirection.
All last night was about was making people not be able to distinguish fact from fiction when it was dressed up with a load of psychological nonsense which most people don't know enough about. That's all there was to the trick.
Unfortunately, he pushed it too far and most people didn't buy it.
rusty shakleford
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So is Derren turning him into a chavvy house burglar or was he always like that?