Crash - A must see film!!!

Most films are hyped up. That's how we get to know about them. Don't know how it was hyped 'beyond reason' though :confused: .
It didn't need a caption saying 'racism' every two minutes because its an adult film. If you want things spelled out for you watch the teletubbies (I understand they're making a movie of it soon :) )

As for 'one-note'. Gee. Like action movies, romantic movies, thrillers, melodramas, horror etc...? :rolleyes:

The only thing I agree with you about is your assesment of Mr Harrison.
 
Looks a pretty good movie, going to have to buy it soon :), as for the OP and his legit or non-legit copy, i do know a company who shipped these around the date he posted this (it was a day or two later iirc) and people recieved them around 2 weeks before release. Not going to mention the company because they are a decent company and i wouldnt want them getting into any trouble for it ;)

There are definitly company's out there who ship titles VERY early sometimes, im not saying the OPs is legit or not, but it could be. You just have to know the places to shop ;) (also helps if you know people who work at the company's)
 
Just saw this. Thought it was brilliant had all my frienRAB in tears especially when
that guy shoots at the little girl
. I thought the scenes when
the policeman rescued the woman he molested and the one where the detectives mother blamed him for his brothers death were particularly moving.

The thing that made it so moving for me though was that with all the guns and violence someone was bound to get killed but you would never pedict who or by who
 
I went to see this at the cinema, and come out thinking 'what was that all about'. But then I'm slow like that. Everyone else who went with me really liked it :)
 
It's not that much like Amores Perros, it's more like one of those big-cast lots-of-different-stories films like Magnolia or Short Cuts but with a racial slant. I think it's actually better than all three of those films, you should go and see it.

It's funny, but I saw two other discussions on the net the other day about this film that ended up being a big debate about people being noisy and talking a lot in the cinema, and now people are mentioning that in this thread as well. Maybe you need to concentrate more for this film than you do for most, and therefore you notice every bit of talking and packet-rustling going on around you.
 
Hyped up? Yeah, I think that's a fair comment. We're not talking about the Paul Ross' of this world who wet their pants every time Vin Diesel appears; the critics who gave Crash strong marks are well-respected international critics. The TV adverts are similarly hyperbolic.



Try reading my post again. Maybe I didn't make myself clear but what I was saying was that I didn't need things spelt out for me but this was precisely what Crash was doing. Simply put, there was no subtext in the film so it was comparable to a caption appearing every 5 minutes pushing the point of the film further into the audience's face. I'd like to credit movie-going audiences with a little more intelligence and perhaps leave things 'unspoken'. The Teletubbies movie you speak of will probably contain more subtext when it materialises.

To clarify; I don't think it was a particularly bad movie. Just not, a particularly great one either.



And at no point did I say that any of these genres were better than Crash. That said, I can name examples from each genre that are significantly better than Crash.
 
Thanks for the posts Mr/s Job. Always nice to read them; no matter how rambling or incoherent. I really don't have the time to destruct every glaring error that you've made, but here are the highlights.



You're making assumptions on my views on racism (and presumably my race) based on my feelings for this movie? Please yourself. I've nothing against films against racism (Spike Lee's earlier movies are worth a look for any film fan and I enjoyed American History X to a certain degree) just I didn't think this was worth the hype.



I dismissed this film in a couple of paragraphs. You then attacked me (albeit incorrectly). I don't think the matter of this film's significance really matters to you one iota. Your primary problem seems to be that -wow- I disagree with you.

I'm going to ignore your comments on 'theme'. I explained myself in the previous post. Kinda bored that you haven't grasped this simple premise.



The previous point was in my earlier post. Try and keep up. It's really not that complicated.



Not a difficult film to get? Thanks for proving my point. The subject of racism isn't a hard theme to get but the complications that arise as a consequence of it definitely are. The film covered several storylines but they cover the same ground and don't explore the consequences in any real depth. There's a matter over style over substance in this movie (see the pretentious comment in my earlier post(s).)




I'm doing just fine, thanks. Mine was shortened paraphrasing from Wikipedia. Yours is equally valid since it covers pretty much the same ground (and my examples are fine). It's irrelevant because I said there was very little of it in Crash. This seems to be your main bone of contention; that you believed you had to think hard about what the characters were thinking, when really it's clear in the text. My opinion, of course.



That's lovely. To save myself the same bother, I suggest you just read the paragraph above again. Try it a few more times. Got the idea yet?



This is really not that complicated. I accept we have a difference of opinion on the use of subtext in this movie. You can't seem to accept that. Your loss.



I'll keep talking as long as you keep whining that I don't feel the same way about this movie as you obviously do.



BB-Five said he found the movie dull and fell asleep. Fair enough. I said the movie was over-hyped and the subtext was lacking. These are valid reasons for disliking a movie. Live with it.



Because you can't seem to understand what I mean. I'm was giving you an example that I thought you might understand. You can draw your own conclusion about the
 
Taking a picture of it on screen means nothing as the DVD-R is online for download :rolleyes:

Take a picture of the Disc, Box, Inside Cover ;)

Also please do share with the rest of the class where its shipping.
 
True that is what i was thinking. Anyone can even make a decent looking menu and say its retail. Until we get info on where he got it then he is a pirate to most :D
 
I tried reading your post again. But its like you haven't even watched the movie.



????? Okay, you lost me. Because this film is ALL about subtext. Yes they're pushing race because (again) that's the movies theme. But how the characters react to it IS the subtext.
There are reasons why people act the way they do. Maybe its for a good reason, maybe they've been hurt, maybe its just out of blind hate, maybe greed... Crash explores these characters (some more than others).
Like the cop said "...You think you know who you are? You have no idea."
That's what the film does, it explores people.

Yes, yes, yes its about race. But the characters and the performances of the actors playing those characters was a beautiful thing to watch.



Never said you did. Try reading my post again. :rolleyes: I asked a question.



Please do.
 
Yeah, good one. I didn't love the movie so I obviously wasn't paying attention! The reason I suggested you read my post again was that I was implying something that was a completely contradiction of what you believed I said.



I'm not going to argue with how you felt the movie used text/subtext. Perhaps you felt the handling was subtle; that you had to search for the subtext. It's a few weeks since I saw the movie, but I must say that this was the chief fault of the film. How virtually every character 'responded to the theme' was to descend into a rambling monologue on how they felt about people of a different race. Then -wow- they were treated to an epiphany that made them see things from a different perspective. I have no problems with films that handle multiple storylines, just as long they also handle multiple stories. Each storyline in Crash carried virtually the same beats.



:yawn: Which you were implying I inferred in a rhetorical manner.



Sure.

Some one-note movies that are superior to Crash from each of the genres you picked...

Action movies : Die Hard
Romantic Movies: When Harry Met Sally
Thrillers : Rear Window
Horrors : The Exorcist
Melodramas : Cat on a Hot Tin Roof

Now, you can get very snobby about your current love of this movie but I guarantee that in ten years time all of the above movies will be a lot more fondly remembered.
 
Nearly 6pm. Need to go home Mr/Mrs Smerph.

Hey what media studies course did you do? I think you've a good case for a refund! :p

Oh so what if not many people voted for it. All films don't have the same amount of votes... unless you're in a dictatorship.

I'm going by a source YOU quoted. Now you're moaning. Typical. :p :p

Let's look at the others on IMDB hmmmm....? Yeah, let's

Die hard 8.0/10
When Harry Met sally 7.7/10
Cat on a Hot Tin Roof 7.8/10
The Exorcist 7.9/10

Rear Window 8.7/10

(He,he,he it beat Crash! Whodathunkit!!! Maybe you should quote a source more in your favour next time? :rolleyes: )

I'll be back... :D
 
Honestly, does it really matter whether this guys copy is pirated or not? (well yes, but what I mean, it's not for discussion here)

The topic is CRASH, and damn good film. I heard rave reviews and thought I must see it, even though I wasn't looking forward to it too much. I left the cinema shaking.
 
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