"Concerned Citizens of the United States" Looking Out for Our Interests!

[Bigt]

"Concerned Citizens of the United States" Looking Out for Our Interests!

Yeah, I always wonder why people suspect racism when immigrants are called invaders and characterized as coming to take your nice house from you.

Someone who uses terms a hair's breadth away from racism, I have no problem believing they're racists.

Of course, YOU won't be able just "digest that fact" without a noxious belch, I'm sure.

No, sorry but as usual you're full of shit.


You immediatley scream racism every time you haven't got any sort of logical argument to defend what you'd LIKE to believe.

You basically are a coward and a liar.

I am roaring with laughter!! Omigod, you are hilarious!!!

Don't worry. I duly chagrined by your incisive arguments. Whatever you say.

(Hilarious!!)

Translation: you got bitch-slapped silly and you got squat.

Maybe you should stick to the actual points being debated. Oh wait

 

[Cat Whisperer]

You can't advertise yourself as The Land of Opportunity and not expect the less fortunate to want to come and get some.

I think that's a germane point in any discussion of illegal immigration. We don't advertise our deep, abiding awesomeness - then everyone would want to live here.

 

[Little Plastic Ninja]

Thge United States has never had "open America right now is suffering from 10% unemployment. There is no job that an American "will not do". An American can make beds in hotels, be maids, pick fruit, construction, anything. There are many CITIZENS who are in the trades who want to work!

http://www.takeourjobs.org/

 

[gonzomax]

Sorry, we got no freedom here. At least not for wetbacks. But hey, if you're a European illegal, have a seat and let me get you a beer!

Then they would bitch about the beer.

 

[Frank]

Well I use to be a fruit picker.....any other questions?

So, you're saying that you can no longer find a job as a fruit picker?

The seasonal requirements for cheap agricultural labor in the U.S. have been partially met by (legal and illegal) Mexican labor since the late 1800s, and the Mexican component of that labor grew tremendously under the Bracero Program.

I guess you've been out of work since at least 1942.

 

[Attack from the 3rd dimension]

Actually that's a quote from long before the bong, it pertains to inbreading, and I guess he does fit my assessment of him, he said yes

Inbreading - is that like when you put stuffing inside the turkey?

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I guess you've been out of work since at least 1942.

It's Obama's fault.

 

[Shot From Guns]

I have no idea how the this group got their information, but it seems safe to say that the group itself is not a "covered entity," within the meaning of the HIPAA requirements.

You would be correct to assert that for this group to release medical information about people is not a HIPAA violation. However, the way I read the post, it was saying that whoever gave them the information about the women's pregnancies probably violated HIPAA.

 

[Bricker]

Because them Mexicans ain't got no fancy dee-grees. Or something.

If you can't pay attention, you'll have to stay after school and clean erasers.

In what sense is it a necessary consequence? :dubious:

US immigration laws restrict immigration into the US.

Immigration is the flow of citizen of other countries into this country to establish residency.

In large measure, other countries have concentrations of particular ethnic groups.

Laws that restrict immigrations thus disadvantage other ethnic groups.

 

[Bricker]

You would be correct to assert that for this group to release medical information about people is not a HIPAA violation. However, the way I read the post, it was saying that whoever gave them the information about the women's pregnancies probably violated HIPAA.

I agree it's possible. I have no idea how you (or the post in question, assuming you are merely pointing out its message without adopting it) reach "probable." As I mentioned above, my organization keeps track of clients' due dates for the purpose of providing various types of material and referral aid, and yet would not be a "covered entity" under HIPAA. Since we don't appear to have any clue as yet where the data came from, it doesn't seem ...er... possible to confidently say "probable" here.

 

[Death of Rats]

I see nothing wrong with concerned citizens reporting illegals to the relevant authorities, no more than I would have a problem with a person who reported that their neighbour was a law-breaker.

It is the duty of every good citizen to report illegals and other lawbreakers, and not turn a blind eye to their activities.

The problem here is that at least some of the adults on the list and all of the children listed are not law-breakers and 'Media Outlets' are not relevant authorities.

It is ironic, though, that the people who compiled the list may have become law-breakers in the process. i hope someone reports all of them to the relevant authorities.

 

[Shot From Guns]

"Concerned Citizens of the United States" Looking Out for Our Interests!

I never for one moment thought that you were a lieing pathetic piece of
filth trying to pass yourself off as something you are not .

Hahaha, you seriously think I'm lying? What, like I was born in Mexico and moved here five years ago by hopping a fence in Texas?

And then, with a mighty effort that could be seen in the muscles and veins on his neck tightening, threatening to burst, and his tongue pushing out of his mouth toward his ear, Shot From Guns achieved his goal and dialed up the stupid beyond 11, reseting the bar for humanity at 12.

Emphasis added. You still haven't figured out I'm not a man?

Newsflash: wanting to control illegal immigration

 

[Bosstone]

Seeing as this is the Pit, this is just too good to pass up. A multiquote so that someone can post a single smiley in response. You're going to see these a lot, and apparently I can't do anything to stop it.

You can't, because you're a feckless, gormless, nutless, whiny, passive-aggressive little bitch. Even when nested quotes were disabled we had plenty of people replying to a pages-long post just to add a smiley. Get the fuck over your wanna-be martyred self and shut the fuck up.

 

[Really Not All That Bright]

Laws that arbitrarily* restrict immigration, yes. However, there's nothing to say we couldn't just have, say, a lottery, open to any applicants, and whoever wins gets in.

*or on the basis of national origin, in-demand skill, etc.

 

[Shot From Guns]

You really think there are more non-HIPAA groups tracking due dates than ones that fall under HIPAA? I mean, I'm sure it's a WAG coming from either of us, but.

 

[Skeleton10]

Not a "he," dickgarage.

Don't you have an asshole to be rimming? Or are you typing one-handed while the other one spreads the cheeks?

Then act like one! might be a stretch, speaking of...

 

[Bricker]

Laws that arbitrarily* restrict immigration, yes. However, there's nothing to say we couldn't just have, say, a lottery, open to any applicants, and whoever wins gets in.

*or on the basis of national origin, in-demand skill, etc.

Even a random lottery would have an as-applied disproportionate effect on certain ethnic groups, because of the disproportionate representation of those certain ethnic groups outside the borders of the country.

In simpler terms, the people outside that want to get in are not distributed evenly across all known ethnic groups. Any restrictions at all on getting in thus disfavors come ethnic groups more than others.

 

[Laudenum]

We'll swap you some of our drunken East European immigrants for some of your hard-working, low-pay expecting wetbacks.

We actually have a lot of Eastern European immigrants, and they do work hard, and are not bad drunks.

 

[Bricker]

Look, a goat can't differentiate a quadratic equation. It's not the goat's fault. Stop worrying about it, would be my advice.

So, you're not actually going to DEFINE YOUR FUCKING TERMS?

I'm trying to engage you honestly here, and you keep fucking sidestepping me. I can only assume that you know you're wrong, or you've realized that you don't remember the point you were trying to make, or you're just being deliberately obtuse to push my fucking buttons.

So just TELL ME what you FUCKING MEAN by "disfavored." Because so far, I've pointed out repeatedly how a lottery system WOULD NOT disfavor ANY group trying to enter the U.S.--i.e., I have DISPROVED your assertion that ALL forms of immigration inherently "disfavor" some ethnic group. And unless you are making up your own meaning of that word, that's absolutely not the case.

So, please do me the COMMON FUCKING COURTESY of responding to a simple request for you to DEFINE YOUR FUCKING WORDS. Or just concede that you were talking out your ass.

In the post immediately adjacent to yours, Buck Godot says:

Got it! I was misunderstanding your point.

Don't you find yourself wondering, just a bit, why he got it and you can't? Wouldn't this be a time to adopt, perhaps, a slightly more humble tone, knowing that if, indeed, it turned out I was wrong, you'd still have plenty of room for vitriol afterwards?

Here's a very simply explanation:

Mostly, other ethnic groups are the ones who wish to immigrate to the United States -- groups other than the classic "White, Anglo-Saxon Protestant" that is the classic American.

Since all immigration laws keep them out, all immigration laws disfavor those groups. It's true that of the groups that wish to get in, one group may not be more burdened than another. But all, save the groups already here and unaffected by immigration laws, are so burdened.

Even simpler, in words of one syllable, sacrificing nuance for something you may be able to grasp:

Brown folks want in. White folks in now. Brown folks hurt more by law.

 

[elucidator]

I understand your efforts to reach out and break down your massive cognitive capacity in terms lesser minds can grasp. But let me remark in hope of promoting clarity. I swear on the soul of Saul Alinsky that I intend not the slightest snark when I say:

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Really Not All That Bright]

Then you grant lottery applications on the basis of demand. 1,000,000 Mexican applicants get 1,000 lottery tickets, while 1,000 Australian applications get 1 ticket, and so on.