"Concerned Citizens of the United States" Looking Out for Our Interests!

[kaylasdad99]

I was under the impression that the point of the founding of the United Nations was to stop recognizing right of conquest as legitimate. Going forward, at any rate.

In the meantime, the evolution of our consciousness kinda-sorta compels us to acknowledge that the past legitimacy of the practice is suspect (by today's standards), and that what we have come to think of as the perquisites of sovereignty should at least be subjected to some scrutiny before we use them as exclusionary cudgels against human beings who presumably have the same reasons for wanting to be here as did our own immigrant ancestors.

Sure, let me know how that works, unraveling conquest after conquest. Do the Celts get to stay in Britain or do they have to be resettled in Central Europe?

Evidently, I wasn't careful enough to make it clear that "Going forward, at any rate" was intended to mean that I expect and endorse no such unraveling. My apologies. It was so intended.

Even if we assume that the United Nations' founding drew a bright line in the sand insofar as freezing national boundary changes by conquest, the specific reference I was answering - US sovereignty over mainland middle North America - comfortably pre-dates it.

So, no, I absolutely reject the idea that there can be any question of the sovereignty of the present United States government over the land in question here, much less the idea that such question can be used in any way to vitiate the strength or legitimacy of our immigration laws, regardless of how much of a "cudgel" they are for other human beings.

I hope I didn't explicitly deny the legitimacy of those laws, as they presently appear on the books. I do have the sense that such laws have historically been enforced, and in some cases, have been written in such a way as to put members of some ethnic groups at a disproportionate and inequitable disadvantage. To the extent that my sense is an accurate reflection of reality, I would like to see some reform of those laws, and if that reform results in a temporary disproportionate advantage to those ethnic groups, I think I could be okay with that.

 

[Really Not All That Bright]

I breathlessly await your suggestions as to how these innocent do-gooders ascertained the legal residency status of all those no-good illegals.

Breathlessly.

 

[Bigt]

I breathlessly await your suggestions as to how these innocent do-gooders ascertained the legal residency status of all those no-good illegals.

Breathlessly.

Dead yet? Breathlessly waiting on anyone around here is surely a suicide mission.

 

[Monty]

By "other lawbreakers," you of course do mean those two cretins who knowingly and willfully broke the laws to obtain their info, right?

 

[Shot From Guns]

Can you look thru a one inch water pipe with both eyes?

Yes.

It's a congenital condition. I don't like to discuss it.

 

[Attack from the 3rd dimension]

Can you look thru a one inch water pipe with both eyes?

These kids, and their damn drug slang and ghetto talk. This must be something to do with that sharia law I keep hearing about.

 

[magellan01]

I'm starting to hate the nested quotations.

I'm starting to hate the nested quotations.

I'm starting to hate the nested quotations.

I'm starting to hate the nested quotations.

Yes, me too.

That's op art-ish. It would be cool if the type size reduced 10% with each nesting, until it "poof" disappeared.