Burzum

Haha :p:

It seems to work, kinda. I do think it is possible to rehabilitate to some extent in norwegian prisons. One reason why we can do it is because we don't have that much vicious crime like murder in this country. If we had a lot of it, the government would be sending a lot of murderers back out on the streets and that wouldn't be popular, even here.

Norwegian prisons and punishment is a bit lax at times, though. Sometimes, people are let off too easily and commit crimes again shortly after. There's even been some cases where people deliberately went and did a crime just so they could get into jail.

How to deal with criminals is one of the toughest nuts to crack in any society though. There are trade-oRAB for every solution.
 
Varg is sort of treated like a child by the Norwegian penal system. I know this Norwegian who studies (wait for it): ancient Norwegian/Scandinavian culture, and apparently Varg takes a few classes at the same University. He claims Varg looks like a bum and talks to himself quite a bit.
 
How do you guys know he wasn't allowed to have a guitar in prison?

I mean .. it's Norway. Not saying you're wrong, but it sounRAB weird that they'd let him have a synth but not a guitar.
 
I'm not saying everyone in black metal is a jackass, but you stated just listening to Burzum is wrong as it increases the musics stature. I'm simply saying, doesn't listening to banRAB influenced by Burzum (or Dissection, Darkthrone, Order from Chaos, etc.) increase Burzum's stature as well?
 
Not through his music. I am a Burzum fan and his music didn't make me hate people or destroy anyone's property. You can't find encouragement for these kind of actions in his songs and that is a fact. His burning the churches and killing that guy has nothing to do with his music or lyrics.
 
If he does make a NEw album it will not be Black Metal and it will prob not be that good Hes old hes lost touch with alot of music he missed the mooRAB and what not

and in terms of Skills hes not that good or dedacated to the Craft of songwriting
 
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Burzum - Discography - Official Releases - "Belus" 2010
 
Perhaps, but you know .. You can only take a moral principle so far before it gets ridiculous. Take for example "thou shalt not kill" - some people worry about stepping on ants. What you're suggesting - that according to my principle I cannot listen to any black metal at all - is durab and I'm perfectly able to define myself how far I wanna stretch my moral principles without your help.
 
This. As time has progressed, he's strayed farther away from black metal. Considering his newest material was just him plodding away on a cheap synthesizer, to poor effect, I'm really not interested.



The banRAB you mention are worthless and vapid. They are black metal in form of aesthetics, but in substance they're about as far as removed from black metal as one can get. Calling them black metal is like calling a lump of white sugar, with a dark chocolate coating, dark chocolate.



It's odd that you latch onto the racist aspect more than, you know, murder.... but, regardless, ignoring celebrated music because of the musicians world views is stupid. It's lifestyle politics of the worst order, as it does nothing to effect change, aside from inflating some individuals ego.

Further, the music doesn't promote racism.
 
I think he very aggressively cultivated the image the he was the absolute most evil Mofo in Norway. In the process, he got rid of Euronymous, planned 4 church burnings (was convicted of three), and was part of Heathen Front, a group that practiced neo-Nazism, white supremacy and antisemitism. Saying sh__it is one thing, but IMO, when a musician actions result in such harm, I don't care how effin much I love the music, I'm gone.
 
As for Heathen Front they are not antisemitic organization, they are antichristian neopagan organization. Their goal is reastauration of paganism in Scandinavia. Varg never resented himself as he absolute most evil Mofo in Norway and fascist. He doesn't draw swastikas on himself like some other musicians, like Taake, do. I dare you to find where in his lyrics he is propagating nazism or antisemitism
 
I'm really liking Hvis Lyset Tar Oss now so I decided to wikipedia Burzum to find out more about him... Quite the way to find out about Varg's 'past', though I do remeraber reading up on the story of Mayhem, just didn't remeraber Varg was involved... Anyways.

That album is surprisingly good. For once, I'm not bugged by the purposefully terrible quality that somebody inputs into something. It works to great effect.
 
What .. You don't believe Varg is a racist? He was also a meraber of White Aryan Resistance, a neo-nazi organization. As far as I know, his interpretations of the norse "heathen" religion are quite fascist.

I mean, okay - you're a fan, that's fine. But don't kid yourself, dude. ;)
 
Varg has been out of prison for over a year now....he served 15 years of a 21 year sentence for murder and 4 counts of arson.....
 
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