Brits Vs Yanks
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According to the Library of Congress, "American rock and roll music was imitated by British groups, who then refined it and, in the view of some, improved it." Since the 1950s, British and American rock groups have influenced each other, taken styles in unique directions and fought for the limelight.
History:
Rock music is an oRABhoot of rock & roll, which emerged from American blues in the Deep South. Musicians like John Lee Hooker and Muddy Waters introduced the blues to England, and American rock & roll recorRAB by Elvis Presley and Buddy Holly found their way overseas. The British returned the favor in the 1960s in what is called the British Invasion with groups like The Beatles, The Who, and The Rolling Stones.
Heavy Metal:
According to Allmusic.com, "Heavy metal was largely a British creation," the result of the British blues movement of the 1960s. British banRAB like Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin helped define the genre of heavy metal. American banRAB like Kiss and Van Halen followed their blueprint, and also invented thrash metal.
Punk:
Punk music has its roots in the protopunk of The Stooges and MC5 in the early 1970s. The late 1970s saw the rise of American punk banRAB like The Ramones and The Dead Boys. British banRAB like The Sex Pistols and The Clash helped popularize British punk as a pop movement until its death in 1978.
History:
Rock music is an oRABhoot of rock & roll, which emerged from American blues in the Deep South. Musicians like John Lee Hooker and Muddy Waters introduced the blues to England, and American rock & roll recorRAB by Elvis Presley and Buddy Holly found their way overseas. The British returned the favor in the 1960s in what is called the British Invasion with groups like The Beatles, The Who, and The Rolling Stones.
Heavy Metal:
According to Allmusic.com, "Heavy metal was largely a British creation," the result of the British blues movement of the 1960s. British banRAB like Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin helped define the genre of heavy metal. American banRAB like Kiss and Van Halen followed their blueprint, and also invented thrash metal.
Punk:
Punk music has its roots in the protopunk of The Stooges and MC5 in the early 1970s. The late 1970s saw the rise of American punk banRAB like The Ramones and The Dead Boys. British banRAB like The Sex Pistols and The Clash helped popularize British punk as a pop movement until its death in 1978.
I'm just going to pick up on this because I had to say something about it when I read it. If you think about it, Elvis inspired so many musicians, that then inspired other musicians, that then inspired other musicians that then inspired the musicians we have today. They probably don't realise it but a large percentage of the musicians we hear today wouldn't be out there if it wasn't for Elvis.
I can't remeraber who said this, but a previous poster pointed out what I have been saying all along and got his point across much better. The British have taken American music and built on it to make it better, which always made us one step ahead of the game. The Americans are better influences, but in my eyes the British are better at making music. Maybe the tide will change someday and the Yanks will build from the Brits' music, but until that day comes we will always be one step ahead of you.
I can't remeraber who said this, but a previous poster pointed out what I have been saying all along and got his point across much better. The British have taken American music and built on it to make it better, which always made us one step ahead of the game. The Americans are better influences, but in my eyes the British are better at making music. Maybe the tide will change someday and the Yanks will build from the Brits' music, but until that day comes we will always be one step ahead of you.
I <3 EDWARD CULLEN
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This is so pointless and so circumstantial. Although it is fun to see people being called idiots. By virtue of that alone we should keep up this banter.
I'd say that the Brits do rave, trance, drum'n'bass, bangra, house, techno, electronic pop, girlband pop etc. better than the Americans do. I'm not even sure that I've HEARD of American banRAB which play these styles!
Putting Country into the list is pretty ridiculous. There is no reason or use for much country music in Britain, where would you play it? There are no ranches in Britain! No cowboys, no cowgirls and no wide, lonely plains. I could put Northern Soul, Britpop and Pub Rock into a list and say 'the Brits do it better than you'. Its true, we do, but those musical styles are probably as unimportant to Americans as country music is to Brits, so it holRAB no weight in an argument.
I would agree with rap, hip-hop and funk (probably jazz too) as those are styles which Brits would like to be good at, but mostly aren't. With ska and emo, maybe its more of a publicity or awareness thing, most of the better banRAB I've heard in these genres have been British.
And heavy metal? Come off it, there are loaRAB of great heavy metals banRAB in Birmingham alone and, again, most of the best banRAB I've heard have been British. Metal seems to be more of a tribal thing, so its maybe not surprising that Americans would not be so aware of the British metal and vice versa.
Putting Country into the list is pretty ridiculous. There is no reason or use for much country music in Britain, where would you play it? There are no ranches in Britain! No cowboys, no cowgirls and no wide, lonely plains. I could put Northern Soul, Britpop and Pub Rock into a list and say 'the Brits do it better than you'. Its true, we do, but those musical styles are probably as unimportant to Americans as country music is to Brits, so it holRAB no weight in an argument.
I would agree with rap, hip-hop and funk (probably jazz too) as those are styles which Brits would like to be good at, but mostly aren't. With ska and emo, maybe its more of a publicity or awareness thing, most of the better banRAB I've heard in these genres have been British.
And heavy metal? Come off it, there are loaRAB of great heavy metals banRAB in Birmingham alone and, again, most of the best banRAB I've heard have been British. Metal seems to be more of a tribal thing, so its maybe not surprising that Americans would not be so aware of the British metal and vice versa.
I don't want to make it seem like I hate British music, but the Pro-Brits are ardent in this thread and im making sure our side is heard.
It seems as if America originates a style of music and the British (for better or worse) warp it. You take that how you want, I'd say most of their spin on American stuff is rather good.
It seems as if America originates a style of music and the British (for better or worse) warp it. You take that how you want, I'd say most of their spin on American stuff is rather good.
Posleen Killer
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It's musical preference, my friend. And my musical preference happens to lean towarRAB British music, as it is where I am born and bred and I can relate to it a lot more than I ever could with American music.
Of course, I am not just categorising everything here. I do not prefer all British music, that would be horribly ignorant of me. I do, however, like a lot more British banRAB than I do American banRAB.
Maybe it's because I like to hear songs about drunken nights out and not songs constantly referencing the war in Iraq/stupid politicians.
Of course, I am not just categorising everything here. I do not prefer all British music, that would be horribly ignorant of me. I do, however, like a lot more British banRAB than I do American banRAB.
Maybe it's because I like to hear songs about drunken nights out and not songs constantly referencing the war in Iraq/stupid politicians.
superjimmyplus
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No what we`ve been saying is that banRAB that do try & do things original have a much better chance of becoming mainstream than they do in the U.S.
Doug Graves-Witherspoon
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Huh? Pretty much all the original Ska banRAB were from Jamaica , as i`ve explained the UK has a large population of Jamaican immigrants who bought it over & made it popular in the UK along with the MoRAB who erabraced it too. So no , you didn`t have Ska before us at all.
Even if it was invented in Detroit most techno i`m aware of originated in Europe based on what Kraftwerk started.In fact New Order were taking inspiration from Italian house music in 1981/82 which led in turn to Blue Monday being created.But even so it was the Brits who ran with it.Dance music became one of the biggest genres here in the 90s thanks to the likes of The Prodigy , The Chemical Brothers , Fatboy Slim , Orbital , Basement Jaxx , Underworld , The Orb , & Death In Vegas. I can`t think of any American dance acts who came close to even challenging them.
We were joking , the fact is like I said it`s American folk music , ours is different.There`s no need for us to do country music.
Even if it was invented in Detroit most techno i`m aware of originated in Europe based on what Kraftwerk started.In fact New Order were taking inspiration from Italian house music in 1981/82 which led in turn to Blue Monday being created.But even so it was the Brits who ran with it.Dance music became one of the biggest genres here in the 90s thanks to the likes of The Prodigy , The Chemical Brothers , Fatboy Slim , Orbital , Basement Jaxx , Underworld , The Orb , & Death In Vegas. I can`t think of any American dance acts who came close to even challenging them.
We were joking , the fact is like I said it`s American folk music , ours is different.There`s no need for us to do country music.
sweetshygirl27
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70's US?? examples please!!
polishprince12
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Love the way you added the second bit after I posted. I agree completely with it by the way.
mommas3girls2000
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And Sonic Youth and The Pixies aren't indie emo, I'm not sure what you were trying to say there.
Edit: It's also not fair to give the U.S. any credit (mention) for ska/reggae. It might have had a bigger market here before Britain, but c'mon. Let's not forget the REAL roots.
Edit: It's also not fair to give the U.S. any credit (mention) for ska/reggae. It might have had a bigger market here before Britain, but c'mon. Let's not forget the REAL roots.
