Brits Vs Yanks

Boo boo, that was brilliant. It's almost asif I've seen that very argument before...In fact I think I made it.

You asked a question, we gave an answer and you didn't like it so you tried to undermine the strength of Elvis and Bob ****ing Dylan. Get this, NO ONE IS BIGGER THAT DYLAN.

You lose.
 
I guess a good way to look at this is (and no, I did not read 38 pages of this thread) nobody is right... I believe boo boo has said in many of his posts...

arguably...

Yep. You can argue. But if someone truly believes something, an online forum argument won't change their mind (of course I can't speak for everyone in every forum, but generally- agreed?) - especially when the argument is based on opinion.

Someone said "Both can learn from each other" - I couldn't agree more.
 
I would say if that one band defined the sound of it then I could see why that would happen.
However as I said the banRAB you mentioned were influences among many influences.How many punk banRAB do you know sound like The Velvet Undergroud or MC5 or The Stooges

Answer none.
 
Iggy And The Stooges being a punk band has always been a matter of debate, i think they are punk, but regardless some of their biggest influences were british banRAB, like The Stones, The Kinks and The Who.

When you think about it, the template for punk rock as we know it can be traced back to those 3 banRAB.

The Ramones had many british rock influences, hell, Joey even tried to sound british on all of their recorRAB.
 
Theres also the Fall Of Troy, Nine Inch Nails, Faith No More, Ramones, Mr Bungle, Bob Dylan, The Doors, Television, Talking HeaRAB, Husker Du, Fugazi, Dead Kennedys, Bright Eyes, Sunny Day Real Estate, Mars Volta, Tool etc... You're treating it like america is full of banRAB/artists that can't even hold a candle to any of those banRAB.
 
???????

Bowie has done Acoustic , rock , soul , electronica , new wave , pop & techno.
Hell the 2nd half of the Low album is Post Rock before Post Rock even existed.

I don`t see how Prince is more experimental
 
The closeness of this competition must show that, per capita, the Brits are way better than Americans at music! There are five times more Americans than Brits, so they should have five times more good banRAB than us! But do they? No.
 
your joking. Britian is pretty much america's 51st state and the two countries share more in common culturally then you seem to think. Both are pretty much run by the media, societies are told what to do via over-exposure and unfortunatly music is part of that. In britian at the moment you either have foppy punk revivalist banRAB trying their best to emulate the libertines, indie-pop groups churning out as many singles as possible to make money, so-called 'big' banRAB releasing sh!t albums or terrible metalcore banRAB. All the decent british banRAB arent given the time of the day because at the end of the day, they dont have mass appeal thus they'll make less money for the industry. my mum and dad chose the wrong time to concieve me.
 
Wow, Mr. "Beatles are the best band ever, anyone who doesn't think that just STFU and agree with me" wants an explanation? Fine.



I enjoyed Sigur Ros a lot when I first started listening to Post-Rock, but now that I've listened to a lot more of the genre they're really nothing special.
 
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Yes, im a traitor, f*ck you patriots, im with the redcoats.

redcoats.GIF
 
By GoRAB Name! JackHammer! that is one the most 'eloquent', diversed pieces of material/post I have ever read on a music forum, of course 'Big3' deserves half of the credits. :)
 
The British media has a much bigger hype machine than we do when it comes to music. That's why every year they have a new band that they obsess over and act like their album is going to be the second coming of christ in disc form (Arctic Monkeys Etc...) and most of these banRAB end of being average at best.
 
Ok, it's your opinion. We aren't specifically talking about Jazz, but yes, Jazz sets the stage for the music created by every band mentioned in this thread. But you are missing the key point here... if the Jamaicans hadn't heard our radio broadcasts and listened to our music - ska wouldn't have been created. Now, ask yourself if that logically void's US credit. Like I said, your argument is not against me... but rather against people who study this for a living and write books about the subject... Brits, Jamaicans themselves, and Americans.



Aye. But not everyone with any appreciation for music is in a band - using the same licks, riRAB, and style to make music of their own.



Agreed with the bastardization point. It happens. Some people could also call that evolution or adaptation to new sounRAB. But I was talking about the term itself. Indie, before it turned into a genre, covered anything and everything non-mainstream. You would have to specify... like, oh, that's indie-rap, or indie-rock, indie-emo, etc etc. Alternative, before it turned into a genre, meant the same thing... it was an "alternative to mainstream music" - covered whatever genre that was out that had an underground (which was all, one would have to assume)



While I thoroughly enjoyed the indie education thread and thought it was well written and pretty well informed - you guys did leave out some speculations, debates on influence - and left out some truly, truly influential banRAB that cardboard added in later... but it was a very good thread. I would go in depth, but I just got back from Spring Break and off a long plane flight - so I'm tirreeed as helll!



YES! And you guys touched on what I'm saying in the "What is Indie?" section. But before it became a genre or a style of music, it was a word that meant non-mainstream (for whatever reasons and not just because principles of independant artists)

I do love that thread though, wish I had been around for when it was written!
 
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