Black man defends home, self, son from lynch mob and gets PRISON for it

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Well, I'm glad we established that him going outside was not in self-defense.

So now he goes outside, because he can, and points a gun at the teens. Who, according to the article, were not on his property, but on the street at that point. He walks up to the end of his property pointing the gun at them.* One of them acts in self-defense and tries to disarm him**. He shoots them. I don't see how his actions are in self-defense in this situation.

He escalated it from the teens taunting and shouting and looking for the son to come out to fight... To a situation where both the teens and the homeowner got into a physical altercation. His bad.

*White's possession of a gun at the "edge of his driveway, inches away from the public street,"**Someone in this thread said that one of the teens tried to slap the gun away... I am taking his word for it... But did the teens even do that? Or did he just shoot them because they were there?
 
2 to 4 years for killing an unarmed person. Most likely be out in 6 months for good behavior.

Not bad. I'll have to remember that the next time there is a "White on Black" crime when some white guy busts a cap in some black teenager and he gets like 20 years plus a hate crime sentence tacked on for killing an unarmed black boy.
 
Five 17 year olds are not "children". They're a small mob. And they sure as hell can be dangerous. I haven't seen you be this disingenuous in a long time. Quit choosing your words to make it sound like he shot a 5 year old girl for playing jacks on his lawn.
 
But he would be treated like a hero on OT. NEVER EVER have I heard a gun rights person say that someone was trigger happy when defending their own home. Of course this guy wasn't white...
 
Not when you are in a fortified defensive position at the attackers aren't trying to break that defense, aren't armed, and aren't making direct threats.

Like I said, IF he was outside, OR they were armed, OR they were making threats ... that would be a different story. But not in this case.





Were they destroying his car or trying to break in? Who or what were they "violent" with? The air? They weren't destroying anything, nor were they (and this is the important thing) making direct threats.
 
All four of Cicciaro's friends denied at the trial that they had used racial epithets during the confrontation in front of the White home, but Eng noted that "in a tape-recorded 911 call, one of the youths can be heard shouting racial slurs as he vows to avenge the victim."

The guy's son testified that the ringleader challenged him to come out on the street to fight. But the gang LIED UNDER OATH and said they didn't use racial epithets during the confrontation.. That right there should have disqualified their testimony..if they lied about that then what else did they lie about? Their true intentions that day maybe??
 
Because whether you're outside on your lawn or inside taking a shit, you're on YOUR land.
 
Ya know there is going to be a movie about this. And instead of being regulated to the Lifetime Channel (if it was a white guy) it will be a big movie with White being played by Washington or Jackson. And instead of the Bronx, NY, even though Hollywood likes to shoot around there, it will be somewhere more southern like Texas or Mississippi by a gang of WASPS instead of greaser tonies.
 
City of San Fran tried banning guns because that's what the people wanted. It was shot down very quickly. No pun intended
 
Ok, when you stop bullshitting about 'tha right to leave my home' when these kids, and that is what we call minors, were on his fucking lawn.

Why go outside? There is no answer that does not pale in comparison to the value of a life Joe. Yeah, I feel strongly about it. Who is to say that kid would not have been back in two years to apologize for being an idiot, as kids are?

Bit late for that. Life is precious. Anyone who rushes to throw it away in a moment of being unable to step onto a lawn does not deserve my respect. I hope you can at least understand this, and know that I will pound you into the dirt over it.
 
Why do you think he's obligated to do anything inside his own home? I want to know why you think he was obligated NOT to go outside.
 
Doubtful.

Although I can't prove it, as a life long american and admirer of our racial gap I sincerely believe a black kid caught committing perjury would be assumed to be lying about other things by a jury, thereby allowing doubt to veer towards the defendant.

I truly believe, even in New York, a white man would not be punished as hard.
He only shot one, but your point still stands.

I'm only pointing it out because I don't want the morons to use one minor mistake to torpedo your argument. An argument I agree with.

Agreed.

This case and the punishment are bullshit, and I think if most of the posters here were honest with themselves they'd be defending the shooter.

Fuck castle laws, fuck New York, fuck the fact that this is OT, and fuck the race of the defendant.

You have a son you love more than life itself and five other kids come to your house, aremed, and threaten him, try to get him to come out from under protection and engage in a fight. How you think that's gonna end? With a hug? 5 on one? You just stand there with your gun and wait for the cops? Seriously?

Fuck if you would. Many of you have been very vocal about how you'd bust a motherfucker threatening your family.

Yeah, alex plays the race card to early and too often, but he's right here.
 
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