Black man defends home, self, son from lynch mob and gets PRISON for it

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uh bullshit title.

Stay inside, call the cops, have weapons ready in case they try to break in. Going outside and confronting them, THEN shooting an unarmed person is asking to get arrested.
 
I don't need advice on how to handle guns from somebody who's afraid of them. I've been shooting longer than you've been alive, and I am 100% aware of the responsibilities that come with owning and carrying them.
 
Joe, how free is this man to walk on his property now? You've used the term 'cage' several times, in reference to a house. I think it much more aptly applies to the prison cell he is now occupying.

Why was he obligated to go outside? It wasn't for defense, because the far better defense would have been to stay inside.
 
You are really, really hung up on this, aren't you? It really bothers you that he had the gall to leave his cage, instead of huddling in fear while he waited for the police to (maybe) come save him.
 
Probably about as right as going outside and shooting an unarmed teen in the street because Texas says so.

edit: Added for hilarious irony:


Oh. I get it. 51% of the population doesn't decide what is right and wrong. But 51% of the states do.
 
Well let's put this to rest with lesson learned:

DONT WALK UP TO SOMEONE'S HOME AND THREATEN THEM WITH YOUR BRO'S BY YOUR SIDE THINKING YOU TOOK LAW101 AND KNOW YOUR SHIT, YOU COULD GET CAPPED.

Have a GREAT day everyone!
 
Did he make it into his house? Did they try to break down the door? If not, that is where the situation should have ended ... or rather with the guy being chased calling 911 and giving police a statement.

Now if the 5 guys chased him and he couldn't run faster than them and he knew he was going to be caught and he had a gun and busted a cap in each one of them, that's fine too.


But once his ass is in that house, behind a locked door, and they are outside, not trying to break down the door, not yelling death threats, not armed ... it is HIS ASS for opening up that door and pointing a weapon at them and shooting them.

End of fucking story.

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Oh, and that is what separates this story from the Getz case. Getz was in a public open place (subway) and surrounded, not in his locked house.
 
And you don't think he said "Get off my property?"

They most likely ignored him.

His reply should have been "... or I'll call the cops" ... which he did.

But he didn't want to wait 5 minutes for the cops to show. He wanted to be "Bill Bad Ass" and walked out there with a loaded gun and bust a cap in their ass.

For that, he goes to prison for trying to be judge, jury, and executioner.






As soon as he willingly walked out that door with a loaded gun confronting unarmed people, he was NO LONGER ON THE DEFENSIVE, HE WAS ON THE OFFENSIVE, thus he can't claim "SELF DEFENSE".
 
No, you don't need advice. You need an intervention. As for the 'I've been shooting longer'--I doubt it. Furthermore, your idiotic assertion of 'those kids are on my lawn' as justification for unholstering a weapon is monumental proof of the hero complex.

You fantasize about being a 'hero', without realizing how completely short of the bill you fall. This is exactly the type of idiot that responsible gun owners loathe being grouped with.
 
There was no turn. The fact that you think so means either you're intentionally mischaracterizing what I said, or you completely didn't understand it.
 
I would not. You don't hand out free candy to thugs who show up in your yard shouting racial slurs and wanting to assault your child do you?
 
Oh bullshit, a bunch of kids chasing another kid home on foot while yelling every god forsaken thing they can think of is normal. I remember one kid running into some old ladies house for safety while ten-twenty kids swarmed outside and then went to the liquor store for pepsi--well that was junior high, but the same could apply to this high school scenario. It's a rush to a fight, then the adrenaline fades and no-one gets seriously hurt. Maybe four of the five were just running along with no intention of joining a fight. Who knows?
 
Not after the chase is over with and the one guy has reached safety. I mean, if the guys were trying to break into the house or whatever I could see your point. As it is... no.
 
So people aren't allowed to decide what is best for their community, so long as they stay within the parameters of the constitution? You feel that only one set of rules must, by government decree, fit all areas of the country?
 
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