Apple iPhone 3G [S] vs. HTC/Google Nexus One

I agree that the actual presentation of notifications is better on Android. BB just manages to provide more notifications in a more reliable fashion. BB also presents all your calls, messages, emails in a unified timeline so that is an advantage as well.
 
1) Well thats why apple is making moeny while google is not....they make you pay for these apps but it doesnt take too long on you're behalf..

2) You should know that it is for you're own good when apple keeps has an approval process...do you really want to risk getting a virus on your brand new phone? or Do you really want to see a market place scattered with useless repeats trying to make money? I guess not...I've noticed you have a problem with the iphone but I and many others belive it has no competition....especially from a newbie like google
 
The iPhone hardware did change in those two years--especially the processor. Also, there will, in all probability, never be a CDMA iPhone.

I take my phone very seriously and I still feel there is nothing that can yet compare to the iPhone -- maybe the next iPhone. :)
 
None of the features/advantages you listed are essential to a smartphone. If you really used iPhone you'd know that it does multitask out of the box, no jailbreaking required. Sure, it may not do things you want, but it doesn't make it inferior to Android. Widgets? Yes, they're nice, but nobody needs them. The essence of a smartphone are messaging, email, and web. iPhone has all three nailed almost perfectly, better then anyone else anyway.
 
Really the only thing?? How's the bluetooth voice dialing working out?, The speaker as loud and clear as the 3Gs? Pretty nice to be able to walk into a store and buy,touch,get support??
 
Oh man i REALLY miss how easy it was to make calls on BB. ON BB if i hit the send it would open my call info then right directly below it was all my last calls, I could scroll down and click or i can just start typing a name and it would come up.

Andriod it takes a bunch of extra clicks... I have to either go to my contacts and select the contact... then select the number... or while in the call section click the contacts tab and call that way....
 
Batteries are getting better, but I think we are close to the physical limits of how much power we can store for a given space/weight.

My issue is that I don't want a locked down Apple phone or a device with no keyboard and mediocre RF, with the E71 and the iPod I get the best of both worlds, although I rarely JoikuSpot, since I am usually in the range of some wifi.
 
iPhone only multitasks system apps but it does not multitask third party apps. It doesn't do very well when lets say, you got a notification. For example, if you're doing one thing, the notification comes with a pop up transparent window right in the center of the screen, and that's for one notification only. Android, RIM and WebOS has far better notification systems that are far less obstruve, yes far more informative, while being able to handle multiple event streams. In terms of notification system design, WebOS tops the cake, followed by Android, then RIM.

Multitasking is one thing. But multitasking is not that useful if the system cannot notify you of event changes in the background related to those tasks in question, allowing you to respond to state changes in that process. In other words, multitasking + event notification is the only form of true, productive multitasking. Example. Android lets you know when a download and an application has finished installing, while you're doing doing another application. iPhone does multitask in the sense, yes, you can download and update apps on the background while you do something else, but it does not tell you when the installation is finished.

Widget? Not needed? Actually once you use them I find them incredible handy. A phone is about providing real time information and messages to you. Widgets do that. They are updated constantly in real time without you having the need for an app to open it.

iPhone does not nail email and messaging perfectly not by a long shot. Blackberry does it better, especially when it comes to the constancy of push messaging. iPhone 3.0 added push notifications but its not as good. If you got multiple notifications, the last one is the only one that will be displayed on the screen. You don't get a unified message and event timeline that explicitly describes who the sender, what sort of app or protocol (Facebook, Twitter, Gmail, Yahoo Messenger, Yahoo Mail, AIM, Windows Live,...) right in one single view.
 
I think Iphone fans on the other hand should not use a JB iphone as a basis for comparison. JB may just go away. Newer 3GS requires a tethered JB (a far worse method than before). From what I know, with this JB you can't boot the phone without a computer (+itunes+cable+jb software). So it would not be far-fetched to say jailbreaking the Iphone now will make the Iphone half-broken.

A non-jailbreak Iphone is just not a fully functional smartphone and will most probably lose decisively to other smartphone platforms based on a functionality points count comparison esp the following:-

- "Home" screen capability and usability. Iphone program icon-based homescreen is pretty useless compared to others like Android/Symbian widget screen or WM Sense/TouchWiz.
- Basic Phone - keyboard options, email attachments, many file formats support, unrestricted access (no Itunes or PC bonding), file system access
- Multi-tasking - self descriptive.
- Automation & customisation capability - incl. automatic profile, call management & filtering, themes etc.
- Openness. Unrestricted voip/file transfer/bt/sync/3rd party apps. For me personally, one of my biggest peeve with Iphone is the blocking of Opera Mini.
 
LOL. I got *transparent* and *translucent* widgets on an Android landscape background that when shifted, moves with a different velocity from the widgets to create a 3D layering effect.

I got a Twitter widget and a Facebook widget both on the same screen to show both Twitter and Facebook streams *simultaneously* in one screen. Both completely separate widgets, not one app obtaining both streams by the way.

I can put my Google Search widget with Voice Search on top of them. So when I click my Twitter widget to refresh for new news, I can click on my Google widget, and enter a word by voice, so it can do a search separately while my Twitter widget gets new feeds. Very handy if you need item information while shopping.
 
does anyone know if the cyanogenmod rom is compatible with the att phone? or does the rom have to be ported over?

double ram, 360 rotation, usb tethering, and the buggy touchscreen fix....this phone may be my next :D
 
I honestly don't know what you are talking about itunes is one of the reasons the ipod and now the iphone are successful. I have more than one iphone (as well as a blackberry) that i use simultaneously (not to mention 4 computers), between itunes and mobile me all my information is synced between my computers and phones, as well as itunes new home sharing feature, where my computers wirelessly syncs all my tv shows, movies, music and podcasts between each other. (i used to have to transfer all my media between 4 computers using a hardrive. Before home sharing; to say it was time intensive is saying the least.)



handcuffed??
It is liberating. Having my playlists, smart playlists, and genius playlists all on my computer s arranged just the way i want it, if something gets updated or changed in my media library all i do is plug in the iphone and itunes takes care of the rest, headache and hassle free.



My computers offer wireless 2 way syncing of my music, videos, etc. as well as wired 2 way syncing from my iphones/ipods, as long as it was purchased from the itunes media store. If i recall correctly this was a stipulation that the labels imposed on apple as a way to safeguard against piracy, in conjunction with the 5 max authorised computers to play from a single itunes user account. :buddies:


again anybody that states that itunes is a "handcuff" just doesn't know how to properly utilise it to its full potential. :2thumbs:
 
i ordered one. Have had all three iphones, its deffinatley time to stick with something new. Had the hero for like a week, it just wasn't what i was looking for.
 
Mobile Me requires that you pay $99 a year. MS Exchange requires for the most part, you work with a company that has this. Yes, Google Sync works with all devices, but its still Google's. Android never has an explicit Google Sync "app" that are requires you to open the app to do the sync. Google Sync is completely transparent with Android---there is no app called Google Sync in Android. It just works as part of the Android background, in real time without any conscious presence.
 
Rumors floating around that the AT&T version is having touch response issues. Article on engadget with a video to show what's going on. Hope it's not a legit problem :-(
 
So Google Chat doesn't take a toll on your battery?? I've seen numerous "Android hints" saying it's the first thing you should disable. Can't say I want my location broadcast via Google, but I guess if that's your thing.

Can Google Voice not be your default voicemail on any other cellphone?? Pretty sure I have the choice been native Visual Voicemail and Google Voice voicemail. I can have the transcript SMS'ed to me or Emailed with audio attached.

All of these things do take a toll on your battery which is why Android devices typically have the worst battery life, Blackberry's usually have the best and I can usually go at least a day with heavy usage on my iPhone. The Nexus One has been better than the Hero or G1, but they don't match my 3GS.

The iPhone also has Gmail push via Exchange. Anything else?

Apple typically does make things look like new features. Android had copy and paste, but when the iPhone finally got it, Apple's implementation ended up being better than any of the competition by far. Mobile browsing and apps weren't new, but I'm pretty sure the iPhone changed those things too.

What I'm saying is give credit where it's due and if you like Android then buy one. If you don't like the iPhone then don't buy one, but obviously your knowledge of it is limited so don't state these things as fact since very little of what you said is limited to Android.
 
Yes I did, cause that's my opinon. But I never called anyone fan boys, etc: because of a diffence in opinion. That's what you guys are doing, which proves my post in the first place. Seems like you'll go to any lengths to try to prove to others that the iPhone is infeior.

And since you want to be technical and not take a post with a grain of salt. Maybe I should go back and quote all your serious errors you stated about the iPhone. Being so uninformed about what the iPhone is capable of makes me highly doubt you owned one in the first place as you claimed.
 
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